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mentalran Regular user 119 Posts |
Its true, mentalism is based mostly on tricks, but the difference is that our "tricks" ,if revealed to the audience is not something they can appreciate as opposed to a magician that have great sleight of hand, that's why our premise is based upon reading body language, suggestion etc..something that our audience can relate to and its not being super natural.
as I have said before, pk is mentalism that's why I see the floating bill as mentalism.. its real to the audience that's what makes mentalism- real. and you can take almost every magic and make it real. |
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
Mentalran,is levitation mentalism? Because from watching your video it looks like you made the note levitate.....I'm gonna post a video of me doing a spongeball routine and using the power of my mind I'm gonna make them vanish!
Kieran |
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mentalran Regular user 119 Posts |
Magicman29 pk is moving an object with the power of the mind.. levitation is pk
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
A magic trick is usually something that appears impossible, yet we know in our rational minds as audience that it must be 'a trick'. Yet we appreciate the skill and deception involved. We clap when we see 'clever conjuring'.
Mentalism however tends to be more manipulative of the perception of what is possible and impossible, and tends to lack the disclaimer of 'But it's just a trick'. Instead it obfuscates the method, confuses the audience's perception of reality, and attempts to convince the audience of skills in things that don't actually exist - in effect, it attempts to sell a different method as it goes based on the effect. It's the difference between being asked 'Very cool, where was the string holding it up?' and 'That's amazing, you read me like a book'. Both can be perecived as tricks from the performers side of the fence, but the impression on the audience couldn't be more different. People never ask me to 'do that trick again'. However they do tend to ask me to read their friend, see what insights I have about someone else etc. This makes mentalists far better liars than magicians IMHO. |
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Peter_turner V.I.P. Bradford, West Yorkshire 1355 Posts |
Clearly anyone who thinks mentalism is a trick dressed up should not be performing mentalism. When I perform mentalism I don't use trickery. I use a hell of a lot of real techniques that are NOT tricks in any sense of the word. Anyone who has ever skyped with me or seen me lecture or give a masterclass will attest to the same thing.
P.k stands for psycho-kinetic (or telekinesis)and although it technically falls into the category of mentalism (as it is an ability of the mind)I honestly don't think it is a convincing form of it. When people see it, I think they will just think it is a trick.....but what do I know. LEVITATION is not PK levitation is where an object "Floats" or "hovers" of it's own accord (there is no one there to control it). The reason a lot of "Mentalists" don't get the reactions they would like is because of above posts. They have no belief in anything they do so they never seem convincing. Look outside the box and see what is really possible because where I am standing things look a whole lot different. The video and trick itself were fine, great reactions, well shot....When the people look up to the roof that should be an indication of whether people believe your mind moved the note. Have some respect for the art, try tell Cassidy what he does is a trick. Pete x |
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lostpoet Special user 610 Posts |
With quality mentalist chair of skill an I add now floating dollar.
I be fine mind reader. I like thanks Café for making act so good. Few weeks more here reading I be best star mentalist. No? |
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
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On 2012-11-07 14:49, lostpoet wrote: Wtf! Kieran |
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lostpoet Special user 610 Posts |
WTF is what all audience say me after pk dollar float plus mentalist chair.
Wish had dollar for everyone that say that saying at my show I be richer. |
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DekEl Inner circle Creates MindTricks. Has exactly: 1172 Posts |
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On 2012-11-07 14:49, lostpoet wrote: I'd like to say that this is the most disjointed and poorly structured set of sentences that I've seen all week, but unfortunately, it's not.
You can purchase my works at: http://www.GetMindTricks.com
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lostpoet Special user 610 Posts |
Sorry, I'll try harder.
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts |
LOL!!!!!
Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1693 Posts |
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On 2012-11-07 13:33, Peter_turner wrote: thank you! |
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Justin Lewis Special user 981 Posts |
On 2012-11-07 13:33, Peter_turner wrote:
Clearly anyone who thinks mentalism is a trick dressed up should not be performing mentalism. When I perform mentalism I don't use trickery. I use a hell of a lot of real techniques that are NOT tricks in any sense of the word. Anyone who has ever skyped with me or seen me lecture or give a masterclass will attest to the same thing. P.k stands for psycho-kinetic (or telekinesis)and although it technically falls into the category of mentalism (as it is an ability of the mind)I honestly don't think it is a convincing form of it. When people see it, I think they will just think it is a trick.....but what do I know. LEVITATION is not PK levitation is where an object "Floats" or "hovers" of it's own accord (there is no one there to control it). The reason a lot of "Mentalists" don't get the reactions they would like is because of above posts. They have no belief in anything they do so they never seem convincing. Look outside the box and see what is really possible because where I am standing things look a whole lot different. The video and trick itself were fine, great reactions, well shot....When the people look up to the roof that should be an indication of whether people believe your mind moved the note. Have some respect for the art, try tell Cassidy what he does is a trick. Pete x WOW.. very well said!
“The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.”- Anonymous
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 02:17, mentalran wrote: NICELY done! |
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PhilDean Elite user 445 Posts |
Very nice dude.
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ralphs007 Inner circle 1087 Posts |
Nicely done, was that magic or telekinesis ? I always get those two mixed up. Just kidding , Great job.
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MichaelCGM Inner circle Oklahoma City 2286 Posts |
Quote: That's it, exactly!On 2012-11-07 10:41, bevbevvybev wrote: |
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