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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
The only time I ever burned myself, I was showing off and held a large sheet 8"x10" rolled into a tight ball between my thumb and forefinger and held it much longer than anyone would need to in a performance. The burn was very minor and did not interfere with my guitar playing, nor did I need salve or bandage.
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Kyoki_Sanitys_Eclipse Inner circle 1513 Posts |
I simply love flash paper. It adds that little more to your magic and if you do it right you wont burn your fingers. The worst thing that ever happened was the smell of chemicals on my fingers for a couple days. If you are looking for a routine to do with it I would go for flash coins relit.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
There are different kinds and qualities of flash paper. SOme flash paper burns faster then others. A faster flame is actually safer, but less showy.
High quality, fast ignite flash paper burns so fast that you can burn it in an outstretched palm and not get burned. BUT THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR ALL FLASH PAPER I was used to that kind and learned the hard way that it isn't always true. It wasn't a bad burn. First degree at worst, mostly more of a welt, but it taught me caution. If you want to do flame from your figertips, you might look into the various hand-pot and cannon gimmick which give you some added protection over bare-handed use. Fire is fire. Fire hurts, fire can light other things on fire, and other things on fire can kill. There is no such thing as "safe fire" and fire props should always be used properly which means with caution. If you are going to do any fire magic the first thing I recommend you buy is a little fire chest (Sentry makes one) and keep all your flammables in there when not in active use. I don't mean to overly scare you, used properly well made fire proops can be fun and add a lot to your magic. But they DO have inherent dangers you need to be aware of.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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frankvomit Elite user 485 Posts |
Craig Petty has a great Ebook available for Download called "In a Flash" it's available in the downloads section at worldmagicstore.com.
I'm a guitar player and use flash paper all the time and my fingers are fine. |
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
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On 2012-11-07 12:48, bowers wrote: Paive! Kuinke Semena! I THINK THE BOOK ON FLASH PAPER WAS BY THE LATE STUART ROBSON AND THE LATE RALPH READ. --But not 100% sure. FLASH PAPER IS NOT A TOY!!! (ANY FIRE IS NOT A TOY!!!) The reason the paper wrapper disintegrated, as far as I know, was due to the NITRIC ACID in the flash paper. Years ago, a magic dealer in Cleveland, Ohio was KILLED in a flash paper accident. Find out the facts BEFORE you try it in a show.
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Magic Pierre Loyal user 212 Posts |
The first time I came on this board I was looking for info on whether or not flash paper could be run through a printer.
I have to laugh (sorry to say) that both the authors of the book on flash paper are "the late". Where did they scatter the ashes? |
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plink Special user 661 Posts |
DO NOT use flashpaper in a funkenring. The metal gets HOT.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
DO NOT TRY TO PRINT ON FLASH PAPER!
Pretty much every printer technology involves heat. You are quite likely to start a fire in your printer.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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magicman344 New user 85 Posts |
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On 2013-06-01 22:46, Cyberqat wrote: how would you suggest putting designs on flash paper if you cannot print it on? |
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magicman344 New user 85 Posts |
I noticed that in this thread, people have been talking about the performer's safety, but you also want to be aware of the spectators. If you are performing for kids(all of them are pyros at heart), flash paper may not be the best idea. Also, you want to be aware of your location. Is it windy enough that you may start a fire? Either way, you need to think long and hard when using flash paper, it can't just be on a whim.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Magicman
I would say a hand operated printing press or stencil and paint/markers are probably safe. Block lithography *might* be safe but id want to make sure of what the chemicals do when the paper comes into contact with them. I suspect the best way, and the way the professionals do it, is to print on the paper *before* it is soaked in the accelerant. Keep in mind that getting the ink on the paper is only half the concern. will the ink produce any fumes that are bad when burned? Will the ink effect the timing of the flash reaction? These are things I can't tell you./ Honestly, if it were me, I'd leave such things up to the professionals or get a genuine chemist friend to advise.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
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On 2013-06-05 16:43, magicman344 wrote: This is a very good point. When I do my dove pan appearance of my cockatiel I use some yellow tissue paper to ignite a ball of flash cotton I palm and drop into the pan after showing it empty. HOWEVER I do a whole lead up about how dangerous fire is, and that I have both special training and a special magic pan, and they should NOT try to call their own magic birdie this way and make sure I get nods before we go on. You never know what idea a bright 6 year old will get if you don't discourage them.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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Magic Pierre Loyal user 212 Posts |
I'm in my 50's and the answers I got about flashpaper fully discouraged me...
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Cyberqat Inner circle You can tell I work on the net from my 2209 Posts |
Well, if used with proper respect and discretion it can be a greta tool.
But if you think you might be sloppy or work in an uncontrolled environment then yes its best not to work with flammables. I never used any flammables on the street. Only in stage work or very controlled parlor settings.
It is always darkest just before you are eaten by a grue.
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Bulletproof New user Frankfurt am Main (Germany) 1 Post |
Hy guys!!!
Can you tell me experience about the flash paper? How dangerous is? What if I put on fire inside my closed hand? Can make it much damage on the skin and muscle? Or nothing happends? Thanks a lot ;-) Best regards. |
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RedHatMagic Loyal user UK 239 Posts |
Play with flashpaper you will get minor burns at some point. But as has been stated some flashpaper is safer than others. In the UK I get my flash products from illusioncraft. It seems to burn "cooler" than some others, I don't know why.
While caution is required many people have found you can print on flashpaper with an inkjet printer. Laser printers use heat and it will burn....so inkjet you are probably ok...laser don't do it. Old flashpaper burns slower than new (hurts more and is a bit rubbish).
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javlin5 New user 42 Posts |
Jay Sankey's DVD is good.
I don't think flashpaper should be a major worry, as depending on how much your using it burns VERY quickly. Just don't use it near a woman with hairspray and you should be fine! |
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