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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Seriously? Still it is the cards fault?
Danny Doyle
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David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Not sure who that is addressed to Danny, but if it was to my comment, I am not blaming the cards. I just personally don't enjoy practising card magic as much as other areas, and thus my other effects are better rehearsed and I devote more time to routining them - much like a lot of card guys' opinions on coin magic. Lots of people recommend the 3 routine set with a coin, card and close-up effect; I just thought I would see professionals' opinions on replacing the card routine with something else in various settings.
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plink Special user 661 Posts |
Having Harlan's Vortex or Portabl Ink ready to add to the bottom of the deck allows you to perform card tricks that are quick, visual blasts, kids love them, parents are baffled and you have a deck that's easily cleaned up if you get the card trick vibe. Also would like to throw in that I've been using Geoff Williams sponge ball routine a lot lately. Well structured and can be stopped at several points if the food should come. That's handy!
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
Cards are not responsible for anything.
Now with a poker boom they fascinate people! Its your job as a magician to decide what card tricks are good and appropiate Right to the point for your audiences and which ones are good for you and the man in The mirror. Lot of card tricks will only live on the pages of a Book !
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vincentmusician Loyal user Toronto 265 Posts |
I am not a big fan of card magic. I like to perform using different Props. However, there are excellent Card Magic routines. The advantage is you can do a lot of Magic with cards, they are cheap and easy to carry. However, I think it is good for yourself and the audience if you mix it up with other forms of Magic. Cheers!
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simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1410 Posts |
Here’s some non card effects....
https://youtu.be/UPw-fjiJCAQ https://youtu.be/e8dYtSsdzGk https://youtu.be/vMn4bitFJRg
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Were those an example of effects less boring than card tricks?
I have never understood why magicians use the name of the effect in the presentation of the effect.
Danny Doyle
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Avocat Elite user 446 Posts |
I once worked a ballroom with a Super Sharpie and a Post-It pad
That’s where I stumbled across one of the strongest effects for young children. I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, but just have the child throw up fingers and SG them. I present it as the child correctly guessing MY number. Curtis Kam figures it’s because children just accept that adults have certain abilities, so you must present it as a demonstration of the child’s ability instead. Plays great with the kids and their parents. For adults, I did a two-digit number and delivered a quick numerological reading leading up to the big reveal. Sometimes, it can be beneficial to purposely hamstring yourself |
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simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1410 Posts |
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On Apr 17, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote: Hi Danny - I assume you're referring to my post? Didn't mention boring card effects? Just thought I'd post some non card effects that I use myself. I guess you're inferring that these are boring? Hey ho... Can't win them all!
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I inferred nothing. I implied nothing, you would have to infer it.
I'm more curious as to why you would use the commercial name of the effect in the presentation?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1410 Posts |
Another non card performance. CelebriDate performed at my lecture at the Magic Circle 2016 when I had hair!
https://youtu.be/WOOaVNaO0gs
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
[quote]On Apr 17, 2021, Avocat wrote:
I once worked a ballroom with a Super Sharpie and a Post-It pad That’s where I stumbled across one of the strongest effects for young children. I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, but just have the child throw up fingers and SG them. Super glueing the child's fingers is an excellent way to keep him distracted.
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akashdeep617 New user 28 Posts |
Carrying a Force Sight Svengali pad by Colin Cloud is really great to have.
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
What bad jokes about a clown's nose are you referring to?
Quote: On Mar 23, 2013, Dannydoyle wrote:
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Mar 22, 2013, TKD27 wrote: THIS is a 100 year old clown joke. I have no language in a card trick this ridiculous.
Danny Doyle
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
Hmmm... I usually pull out a sponge ball and ask anyone if they know what it is. I'll tell them it's not a clown's nose, cause it would have a slit down the middle so it would fit over my nose (usually put it on nose briefly) but I'm a magician, not a clown. Sponge balls have unique properties to them...blah, blah, blah.
I take advantage of the clown line to point with my index finger so that focus is on the pointing (to where the slit would be), not on the ball that hand is holding out. I also take advantage of the empty palm position (and the apparently empty hand that it suggests, even though a ball is being held out) that is displayed when I briefly pinch the ball and hold it on my nose. Interesting thoughts on the clown nose line... Card equivalent - Want to change your mind, no, happy with the mind you have. Or, I'll take the pen back, that's how I got it... Pick a card, any card... Quote: On May 17, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Nowhere near as bad as the clown nose nonsense, but then again I only work for adults.
By the way those are two great examples of lines I don't use. There is HUGE difference in lines magicians all use, like the change your mind thing, and things like the clown nose nonsense. If they work cool do them. If the change your mind line works do it. I was just pointing out the irony of folks using lines like the clown nose and sitting in judgements of card tricks. Best to just do what is best for you and don't judge others.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
Fair points all.
I agree with you about stock lines. I guess that along with the natural misdirection, I always make sure to say it almost haughtily, like "I'm a Magician!" Then dismissively, "not a clown..." It makes me laugh a little inside to diss clowns every time I do sponge balls. Quote: On May 17, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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Jack Skipton Regular user 127 Posts |
I would never do a gig without cards because in my work I find certain things are more suited for certain effects. To elaborate, I use coins for production, vanishes and transportation. I use rubber bands for penetration effects and rope for restoration. I generally use cards for prediction, transposition and psychokinesis effects among others.
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