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Poindexta New user 53 Posts |
So often in threads having to do with IT, the general consensus is that setting and lighting are crucial in doing a proper performance. What is never truly discussed, however, is what settings are most ideal, how to look for prime situations for IT usage, etc. I've always been fascinated with the stuff, and would like to dedicate some serious time learning the most suitable ways to keep the IT, well...I.
Any hints, tips, suggestions? Any books that are rewarding tomes regarding when to use and not use IT? Thanks in advance. |
randirain Inner circle Fort Worth, TX 1650 Posts |
Lots of blue light, and no red light.
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Poindexta New user 53 Posts |
I guess I'm looking for info regarding walkaround stuff, table hopping, real world application, rather than stage stuff. Probably should've mentioned that up front, huh?
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
That is a tougher thing altogether because there are different types of I.T. and each types have different properties that changes where it will work best.
It is all about experimentation - especially in restaurants where the type of lighting used can change from area to area. Even the advice Randi gives above can be applied to close-up work - think of blue lights as being a soft lighting and red lights as being hard lighting. Softer lighting is good. The choice of clothing you wear can also affect whether it remains "I" or not. It is kind of hard to describe further without giving too much away. For a great resource on lighting that will work in these situations, check out any of the DVDs on this subject from Dirk Losander. PM me if you would like to discuss other ideas further. |
James Kellogg III Regular user San Diego 116 Posts |
In strolling situations you will just need to check it when you get there because you really don't have control over the lighting during most strolling circumstances. If you can see it so can they.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
No top, back or side lighting.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Poindexta New user 53 Posts |
Thanks to everyone that has offered advice. I understand that backlighting is detrimental to keeping the secret safe, and that busy patterned shirts can help as well. I guess I'm having difficulty understanding how some videos show performers using ITRs outside on the street, such as Magick Balay performing Centrifugal, Mesika floating someone's ring onto their finger in broad daylight, or someone doing a floating bill from a distance in a mall food court. Are these audience members just stooges and plants in these instances? It's all so conditional, and I'm not one to perform something unless I'm 100% comfortable performing it. I'm a patient sort, so I'll keep at it until I get it right, but for something so popular on dealer sites, IT seems really tricky to get down to a science.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Finn Jon did IT work outside.... again, DIRECTION OF LIGHT, MOVEMENT, BACKGROUND. All need to be considered. There are a lot of guys that buy it and have no clue and either never use it for laymen or expose it.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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James Kellogg III Regular user San Diego 116 Posts |
Magick Baley is stupidly good with an ITR and so is mesika I saw Magick perform his floating ring and I just couldn't see the thread to save my life, so I understand what your saying, I also know different ITRs have different thread but still. I think the best ITR I have seen would be Sorcerery Manufacturing Boss ITR maybe if you don't have this one you could look more into it and see if it is better than the one you currently own.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Do a search on the Café, I and others have discussed this several times.
What you should do is learn some tricks with IT, then read up on the subject a little. Then sit down and absorb what you have learned. Once you understand the basics, you will be able to spot good conditions more readily without having to test them before hand. |
Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Very involved subject here. Poindexta, if you want a good book to intro you to this strange world, get this:
http://www.vikingmagic.com/Invisible%20Thread%20Manual That's your hard copy. If you want to get it right now, just download it here for $10: http://www.lybrary.com/the-invisible-thr......d04d3c0e That's a good start. You're gonna need a good source of raw material. Danskin Black Girl's Dance Tights are a great source in a pinch. You can also get the material on 1000m spools from the right places. The finest and most deceptive is this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31......300_.jpg That's "Navy" or "Royal" Blue. This is the stuff that comes with Steve Dusheck's "Wonderbar". I talked with Steve years ago about this. He convinced me that dark blue is better than black. He's right. This is true of thicker stage line. Of course, lighting has to be considered. I have several brands of this stuff. Y.L.I. is the best: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31......300_.jpg I have experimented with different colors, depending on environment. My brown paisley shirt helps a lot as well. I'm thinkin' dark blue for most indoor, indirect lighting (non-flourescent). Outdoors, an earthy color, brown or dark tan. In the park, around greenery, I've experimented with several shades of green. Ya gotta be careful with these. Long story. It's generally a good idea to stay away from IT effect outdoors in daylight. It can be done. I've done it. But, I've also been busted. I find it is not worth it. Today's indoor lighting is becoming Compact Flourescent for the most part. Flourescent lights are an IT killer! Everywhere ya go, it's flourescent lights! So, I leave it out. Not worth it. If you can get at least ten feet distance, there is one IT that holds half an ounce and is the best I ever seen: http://www.wizardhq.com/servlet/the-1285......n/Detail I have a spool of this. Everything they say is true. Now the strongest, but the most dangerous to use is this stuff: http://www.voguefabricsstore.com/images/P/Sulky-2320012.jpg This one ya have to stripe like a zebra with a Marks-A-Lot Magic Marker. That breaks up the shine. That's the stuff I used for years. It holds a Zombie Ball, so you can ditch that gimmick. These are brief examples of where you can go with IT. There are DVD's and books as well. Good luck! Doug |
Poindexta New user 53 Posts |
Thanks, everybody. Doug, I had just placed an order for that book (along with two others) a couple of hours before you posted that reply. It's good to know it comes highly recommended, as I bought it on a whim after seeing it for sale on a Facebook magic buying/selling page.
To everyone else, thanks for the tidbits, advice, and opinions. Now it's time for me to go put in the countless hours of practice! Thanks again. |
vampiro Loyal user Atlanta 240 Posts |
I am trying to get into IT but am cautious with lighting.
Ideally, doing it under the moonlight with no side, top, or any artificial light. But if we are too cautious with lighting, our invisible thread magic will be unseen by the spectators. |
Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Being cautious with lighting is crucial. There are very few ideal conditions for IT any more. Most lighting today is flourescent. The new Compact Flourescent bulbs are all the rage. Not good. Still, there are times when it is desireable to be set up.
Doug |
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