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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22119146

A quick lesson on Hopi masks and some great photos.
Underpinning it, a sad story of oppression and lack of respect - kinda topical still, eh?
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Very controversial, indeed!

Doesn't sound fair to me. . .
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Not controversial, 30 years ago I bought 2 pipes (Cherokee and Adena culture) sold (among 20 others) by an American museum. They acquired the calumets, then sold them laater and no one never complained.
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I think it is, and should be seen as controversial. Just because someone hasn't happened to have noticed in certain instances.

That doesn't make the morality aspect of the transaction alright. Not on the part of the purchaser nor the seller, especially a museum.

A museum one would think would have the duty tp protect and respect the sacredness of a givenartefact.

At least that is my opiion on the matter.

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That article didn't cover the story well, from both sides. The court held that since the masks had already been bought and sold, they had already been converted into commercial property. If the person who made them was really concerned about their sacred character, he would not have sold them.

It's a complicated issue. I have a number of friends who are curators in anthropology museums. One is in charge of a repatriation project. Sometimes, artifacts are demanded by modern tribal entities, even when the items are from tribes who existed long before the current inhabitants of an area. "It's our ancestors" doesn't cut it, in reality. But the politics of the situation make it into another kind of story.
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On one hand, if indigenous cultures want their artifacts back assuming these cultures are in current existence then IMO they have every right but on the other hand, how would other people experience those cultures in museums without just reading about them? Anc private ownership opens an entirely different can of worms.
Very interesting masks though.
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On 2013-04-13 04:04, Trickster 1 wrote:
Nice photos ! Thank you for the link.

Merci!
Pas probleme...
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On 2013-04-13 15:14, Harley Newman wrote:
That article didn't cover the story well, from both sides. The court held that since the masks had already been bought and sold, they had already been converted into commercial property. If the person who made them was really concerned about their sacred character, he would not have sold them.

It's a complicated issue. I have a number of friends who are curators in anthropology museums. One is in charge of a repatriation project. Sometimes, artifacts are demanded by modern tribal entities, even when the items are from tribes who existed long before the current inhabitants of an area. "It's our ancestors" doesn't cut it, in reality. But the politics of the situation make it into another kind of story.


Well put, Harley!
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