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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
If I saw anything resembling the "fancy cuts" in a game, I'd gather my money and exit immediately. Erdnase's comments about their usage holds no weight with me.
Regarding the DL, I don't think having knowledge of the move AUTOMATICALLY makes you immune to its deceptiveness. Depends on the technique. Yes, if someone does an obvious get-ready, you'll see it coming, but a hit DL or the Stuart Gordon technique can still fly when they are done with no hesitation.
It's never crowded on the extra mile....
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
Erdnase may not have been a very competent gambler, so I take what he shares in the book with a large pinch of salt. If he were a successful advantage player, he surely wouldn't have needed to write a book because he needed the money! However, from his comments about these cuts, I assume he knew several professional card cheats that did use these fancy cuts at the card table. There's a good chance that, as they became more popular, cheats stopped using them to avoid detection.
If a DL is part of a sequence with regular turnovers that simulate the same style, I might miss it. But, I still think that the move is very easy to spot. A good shift, on the other hand, can go by undetected, even if you understand the mechanics of the move. The Stuart Gordon technique is distinctive, similar to the Fancy Blind Cut. This makes it less deceptive than other DLs when performing for knowledgeable magicians. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
This is old but good. I don't necessarily agree with everything they say but the parts about it being best viewed as a total system rather than a "moves" reference are spot on to me. Their approach is a good one, though I stand by my belief that Erdnase can be a good first book specifically BECAUSE it gives you a total system and philosophy to be personalized after absorbing it. If you start with this book then almost everything you learn after will have context. The worst I've heard anyone be able to say about it for beginners is that it's hard.
https://youtu.be/vhCoO1bkiS0
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
Thanks for the link to the Ricky Smith video. I've just published the next update to the Exploring Erdnase Book Club (again, a little late!). In it, I take a look at Erdnase's System of Blind Riffles and Cuts:
Erdnase's System of Blind Riffles and Cuts Tomorrow, I'll briefly discuss the two Fancy Blind Cuts and the One-Handed True Cut. Marty |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
Here's today's update on the fancy cuts in Erdnase:
Fancy Cuts These cuts are a lot of fun to learn and are not as difficult as they first appear. Marty |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I like your plan for the Hofzinser style show. That's the kind of classy stuff that I think elevates magic as an art.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
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On Feb 26, 2023, critter wrote: Thanks. I've wanted to create a parlour show for a while now. The show I'm planning is a cross between a magic show and an interactive murder mystery. The tricks will provide clues to help the audience to solve the murder. Setting it in a hotel is also essential for the narrative of the piece. Marty |
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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
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On Feb 27, 2023, martyjacobs wrote: Sounds fun! Will it be a "period" piece, with costume, etc.? If you are going to go, go all in!
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
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On Feb 27, 2023, Ray J wrote: Yes, the hotel I hope to perform in was built in 1759, so it has a colourful history. I'm writing a few short stories set during different periods that align with the significant eras of magic history. I'll be playing a magical character in costume in each (well, that's the plan, at least). The shows are an excuse for me to dress up, perform magic and have fun! The first show will be based on the English Witch Trials and feature The Discovery of Witchcraft by Reginald Scot. Another story will be set in the hotel during the Victorian period and will feature the gruesome murder of a magician's assistant. Marty |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Sounds awesome. I've always wanted to do a haunted city tour with magic. Maybe one day.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1666 Posts |
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On Feb 27, 2023, critter wrote: Yes, I'd love to do something like that, too. I'm sure such a tour would be successful if it took place in the right location. Noel Britton, a comedian in the UK, does a "Bizarre Bath" city tour that involves magical stunts (I think). I remember him talking about an effect using a ring tied onto a balloon at a magic convention I attended years ago. I think it was a version of Ring Flight in which a spectator believes that their ring is accidentally lost to the atmosphere! Marty |
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