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doowopper Elite user 492 Posts |
If you know about any or all of these effects I would appreciate your thoughts about them or any other metal bending effects: Carpenter's Nightmare, Hell Bent (Solari) and Spoon Bend (Barry Price). Recently I purchased the fabulous XPert effect and that probably is the way I will go, but I am curious about the others. I once saw someone do Price's Spoon Bend and it looked great but it is pricey. Hell Bent also looks good but the bend is done in a closed hand.
Thanks. Richard |
nimrod Special user 881 Posts |
Xpert is nice, but there really is no substitute for a visual bend. Go with the classic coin bending. I know how Price spoon bend works and unless you need it for a TV show, forget it. It is not practical and angley. Go again with the classic bends (Kuffs or Banachek will do).
Nimrod , Israel |
Lord Of The Horses Inner circle 5406 Posts |
Two good starting books are IMO:
Key Bending (Mark Walker) Gellerism Revealed (Ben Harris) There are also some videos of Guy Bavli around (I think they are 5 if you include bending and non bending videos!) but the best is the one put out by Banachek. On it you'll find some little psychological touches that other videos seem to miss.
Then you'll rise right before my eyes, on wings that fill the sky, like a phoenix rising!
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asmayly Loyal user San Antonio, Texas 291 Posts |
Hi, Richard.
I used to use "Hell Bent" but perhaps because it has a "cheap" price, it seemed "cheap". Besides that bit of psychological prejudice, I guess what I didn't like about it, is that there's a "handling" involved BEFORE you can begin. In other words, you have to immediately begin with the routine as you approach anybody--you can't do anything else before doing it (I guess this is where the "cheapness" comes from). Also, the handling has to be set-up without anyone seeing you and you have to be careful not to disturb anything as you walk around which isn't necessarily easy. Aside from that, it was kind of fun to perform and you could milk the bend to make it look like any other bend that comes from your fingertips. |
Thoughtreader Inner circle Calgary, Alberta, Canada 1565 Posts |
Anyone else notice a trend here - cookie cutter mentalism? Soon all lay people will think that mentalists are just like magicians - they all do the same things. Why on earth with so many doing spoon bending does everyone want to do spoon bending?
PSIncerely Yours, a very frustrated, Paul Alberstat |
johne Special user 960 Posts |
It could quite simply be analogous to this...
With so many people driving Mustangs, why does everyone want to drive a Mustang? Maybe his demand is for spoon bending. Perhaps he has been asked countless times, "Do you bend spoons?" Try not to frustrate yourself with why people want to learn...it could very well be he just wants to learn to do it for himself. He may never present it. No harm in asking for opinions. J |
Yaniv Deautsch Special user Israel 529 Posts |
You may wish to read my thoughts on the subject here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/searc......=3496250 and here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/archive1/vie......forum=15 and here: http://www.themagiccafe.com/archive1/vie......forum=15 You might understand what my last signature was all about. Best, Yaniv Deautsch |
bootweasel Regular user 124 Posts |
I use Hell Bent, I like the effect, it's very simple and clean. If you work out of a box or suitcase you can use it at any time.
Without tipping anything, it does require a seconds worth of set up, using both hands, which needs to be done immediately prior to performing it. With a bit of practice I'm sure you could do the setup in your hands under the guise of separating coins from your keys. I prefer Bob Solari's Ghost Key, but this does involve switching in a ungimmicked key at the finish. I tend to reverse the proceedure, having a bent skeleton key on a cord around my neck, taking it off the cord so they can examine it (without letting on that I'm going to do anything), switching it for the gimmick, having it visibly straighten out, retheading it onto the cord and putting it back around my neck. |
doowopper Elite user 492 Posts |
I just watched a demo of Key Melt. It looks impressive. Anyone have any thoughts about that one?
Thanks. Richard |
Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
Time to put the spoons away, and start exploring new avenues. I too remember when metal bending held esteeme....
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KingStardog Inner circle 2134 Posts |
I have Hellbent too. To be completly fair, it is a bend and it does leave you clean. It is modestly priced as well and since you use the same items each time you don't need to lug around a bucket of keys.
(like my Zanadu key thing) The main problem is the 90degree bend does not look natural coming out of a closed fist. I used it mostly on kids. Metal bending will take another 5-10 years or so before it gets popular again. All this stuff seems to go in cycles.
...think not that all wisdom is in your school. You may have studied other paths,but, it is important to remember that no matter who you are or where you come from, there is always more to learn.
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doowopper Elite user 492 Posts |
Key Melt looks impressive in the demo video because the bending is visible and not in the closed fist. That is why I am interested in the effect and looking for some opinions about it.
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