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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
I had an idea to make the nest of boxes trick better, but it requires two sets of nest of boxes.
basically, you have a nest of boxes on the table before you start the trick, you get them to sign their coin... you load it into the second next of boxes in your pocket. you bring out the loaded nest of boxes in finger palm. pick up the empty nest of boxes that is sitting on the table and do a shuttle pass. then hand the box to the spectator. I'm also going to combine this with the Tenyo Trap box to make the signed quarter vanish. you can load the quarter when you put the sharpie away in your pocket and the immediately draw attention to the box on the table while you get the second box loaded and into finger palm. you also have the option of showing the first box empty, and putting it all together in front of them before they sign their quarter. I bought some cheap plastic ones off e-bay just to try this routine out, but they came in two different colours. so I might just spray paint the outer boxes the same colour. but the quality of them is really quite bad... sometimes when you open one box, it will open several of them up. when I get the extra money, I'll probably buy two viking boxes. but I think this routine is the ultimate coin to impossible location trick because from their perspective, the box has just been sitting there the entire time, and they are the ones who get to open the boxes up and examine everything. they'll know that it would be impossible to load a quarter into the box that was just sitting there... so as long as you can do a convincing shuttle pass, it should be a pretty killer trick. after this trick, my plan is to bend their quarter with my QB2... and then maybe "gift wrap" it in my nest of wallets at the end for an extra kicker. I think it'll be a super strong signed quarter routine. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Even a Devil's Hank can swap out the assembled and rubber banded empty box set.
Glad to read you came to that idea on your own. Keep up the good work. :) JonT
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Adam,
Scott Guinn's routine, "In-Tin-Tin" - which is in his ebook "Three Killers" - uses two Viking Nest of Boxes and a shuttle pass for a Coin-to-Impossible-Location. Also, he says he borrowed the concept from John Bannon's "The One and Onliest". I am not familiar with Bannon's routine but you might want to check out both of these before releasing anything. Jim |
AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
Oh cool... I didn't realize others had used this concept before.
I wasn't planning on "releasing" this, if by that you mean put it in a book or dvd... just something I wanted to try performing myself. |
fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3078 Posts |
I like your idea. Trying to think if this can be done with an Okito box.
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
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On 2013-08-28 06:26, fonda57 wrote: interesting idea. maybe it could be used to change all the coins into chinese coins or something. |
harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Re: changing coins to Chinese.
If you combine the thread on use of both hands. You can get the coins out with your right and load the Chinese ones with your left. Then set the closed box down on the table or into a spectators hand. That's how I have been doing it. Keep thinking and creating. It is good that you are re-creating routines that have come before. Means you are on the right track. Harris still 2 old to know it all.
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fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3078 Posts |
Changing coins, yes. Hmm..
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mystre71 Inner circle martinsburg west virginia 1693 Posts |
It can be done with an Okito box, and has. I like the Nest of boxes idea. I think it would be even better if you could switch it early on, and block it so it "seems" as if you never touched it at all. Just a thought.
Joe
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
I found a dealer who was selling the multi colored plastic version of this for a buck a piece. I bought two. Along the lines of your idea, I was planning on dumping the disassembled pieces out of a bag, introducing them as a starter "Rubik's Cube" or something. (Since the pieces are pairs of the same size and color, this is childishly simple to assemble) So I hand one half of the smallest piece to one person, who is asked to find the matching piece, put them together, and hand it to someone else, who puts them into the next biggest piece, etc.
While this is going on, I would have the quarter marked, and switched/stolen (or whatever) and then loaded into the second set of boxes. The folks on the assembly line would by that time have realized that the top of the last box is missing. Under the cover of dumping that last piece out of the bag, I would switch the loaded nest (also missing the last piece) for the unloaded, and have them put on the last piece. The marked coin would be vanished, and then found in the nest. That was the plan, anyways, but never got it completed. I, too, like the idea that the coin appears in the nest that they assembled themselves. I was also playing with the idea of having each person initial the box after he or she assembled it. That would lock in the fact that they had done all the work. Good luck with this, I hope to see what you end up with.
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Magician Shaun Special user Huntington BCH, CA 924 Posts |
@mystre71,
Tom Stone has something similar where he actually loads a cup with a ball on the table ala Tommy Wonder. He then replaces the missing ball with another one so it looks as if nothing is amiss. I am not sure if it is in one of his E-Books on misdirection, either Stonebound or Scribbles or in his Penguin Lecture. I think the Penguin lecture but am not 100% sure. Anyway, this would be a method or at least the seeds of a method to do exactly what you are talking about. Start the routine by talking about the nest of boxes or maybe a quarter go box or a Lippincott box. All of these would be possible with the technique that Tome Stone describes. I would probably recommend using a servant to ditch the first box. This would allow you to show the box by calling attention to it but not too much attention. No need to make your job harder. Then do some magic with the borrowed, signed coin, ending in a vanish. You would then have the spectator pick up the box that had been there all along and you give them the key to open it allowing them to remove their own signed coin from a very impossible location. I think saying that there was a prediction in the box that you put there last night would be a really cool angle. The prediction would be the actual signed, borrowed coin. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Curtis, that reads as workable and practical. Bravo!
Reading the procedure got me wondering if it would play stronger as a vanish/escape. I imagine Houdini patter and them doing the assembly around the borrowed coin while you talk about handcuffs, chains and a large trunk with a lid that gets locked up... And then covered with a curtain... Then after a breathtaking twenty minutes of orchestral suspense (represented today by twenty seconds of puzzled silence) Houdini would emerge from behind the curtain ... Which is later inspected and found locked. I imagine the assembled thing dropped into the bag and later the coin is rolled out, or perhaps a volunteer reaches inside? Just a thought. What do folks think?
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Twenty minutes of orchestral suspense (represented today by twenty seconds of puzzled silence)
That's funny. Some can make you laugh. That statement makes me laugh & think Harris who calls himself a laughologist because everything is not funny and still 2 old to know it all nearly normal reader and righter
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mystre71 Inner circle martinsburg west virginia 1693 Posts |
Gr8gorilla, Thanks, I try to pick up whatever Tom releases. I must have missed his Penguin lecture. But I'll fix that soon.
Curtis as always, That's a really cool idea. Get's 5 or 6 spectators involved. Reminded me of being in elementary school, with the teach having all the students pick a puzzle piece,to do as a group. Jon, I like the reverse also. What if after the vanish, Houdini/coin was found under the watch of the spectator that loaned you the coin ?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
@mystre71, folks
The idea is to find the "just so" that makes the procedure apparently sensible in context and the net effect as magical as possible as an outcome. Unless you really have the energy to do a "helzapoppin" type show with gags, surprises, non-sequitors etc it might serve instead to keep the process aimed at finding what makes sense in performance - including the demands of reset/setup. IMHO that's sensible for most working cases - though likely exactly the reverse for magic shop/competition.
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