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BeThePlunk Special user West of Boston, East of Eden 887 Posts |
Yes, this is a wonderfully thoughtful and well produced manuscript with thoughtful commentary that goes way beyond the ordinary "ball goes from here to there, then you do this" sort of description. Thanks for the great work... and at a price that is more than reasonable for what if offered.
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
The Micheal Skinner Cups and Balls Routine is now sold exclusive By Lybrary.com you will find it here http://www.lybrary.com/michael-skinners-......648.html
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
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On Sep 24, 2013, Jiceh wrote: It is not The Vernon Routine. It is Mike's handling for the Charlie Miller Impromptu Cups and Balls which was published in CLASSIC SECRETS OF MAGIC written by Bruce Elliot. |
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gregg webb Inner circle 1564 Posts |
For today's audiences, one could edit their routines down even more, making them shorter. Most guys go on too long because they can. Also, I always felt Al Baker had an influence on everybody at the time and about everything.
Finally, I too think there are ways to get into the ending without the expose' of the small ball handling. |
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karnak Special user Connecticut 747 Posts |
Is this manuscript still available anywhere? Didn’t find it at Lybrary.com.
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
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On Jan 25, 2021, karnak wrote: I can answer this since I did have involvement in supplying the manuscript. Steve gave me the exclusive rights to it shortly after it was first published. At that time it was available via Lybrary.com Steve has had problems with all of his manuscripts being sold on pirate sites. After years of this taking place Steve P. recently decided to pull all of his work. The Skinner IMPROMPTU CUPS and BALLS was of course pulled. Skinner's routine is his handling for Charlie Miller's Impromptu routine which can be found in CLASSIC SECRETS OF MAGIC written by Bruce Elliot. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
If anyone is interested in some unusual "Michael Skinner" material, there is a set of Conny Haden cups on the Potter and Potter auction Feb 27, 2021.
The history of this set is as follows: When people started asking Lou Tannen for cups like Vernon was using (Paul Fox cups -- pre Danny Dew), Tannen commissioned Haden to produce the cups. Most of them were copper plated with silver. Tannen called them the "Slydini Cups," and he gave a set to Slydini as compensation. But Slydini wanted nothing to do with this, primarily because he was not a cups and balls worker. He gave the cups to Michael Skinner, who, in turn, gave them to Roger Klause for his birthday at one of the Las Vegas magic seminars. Roger used them until he passed away, I purchased them from his widow, Wanda, without knowing the story. Allen Okawa was the one who knew the history of these cups.
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Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Geeraff12 New user Tasmania, Australia 74 Posts |
The original link to this performance doesn't exist anymore. The video periodically appears and disappears from Youtube
Currently the routine under discussion appears and is discussed in this video from Aaron Fishers Conjuring Community. Begins at 5:52. https://youtu.be/w030IJinUBo The vanishes are what stand out for me. Incredible, and the marvellous scatter phase. |
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Leo H Inner circle 1334 Posts |
You can see Skinner's cups and balls routine in volume two of the Legendary Repertoire of Michael Skinner DVD. Home videos of Skinner still in his prime performing in his Vegas condo.
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gregg webb Inner circle 1564 Posts |
Leo H seems to know his stuff. By the way, creating your own routine that is different from everyone else's is the way to make something that is your own. Forgive me for saying, but it isn't how well you do someone else's routine, but how you take your knowledge of magic and pick and choose things that work for you that are not the same as someone else's.
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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1979 Posts |
Michael Skinner has a version where he starts off with the Miller penetration sequence, then produces the three balls in an interesting way. He then goes into various transportations of the balls before the final load. It’s on one of the Skinner DVDs.
I really like the Miller sequence as an opener |
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gregg webb Inner circle 1564 Posts |
I don't have that DVD - only saw him on Carson, but is he using coffee cups or regular cups?
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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1979 Posts |
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On Nov 27, 2022, gregg webb wrote: Regular cups and a wand. Very different type of routine. I learned the opening Miller sequence and ball production. |
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gregg webb Inner circle 1564 Posts |
Thank you. I learned Open Travelers from watching him on the Carson Show, (Tonight Show) and Han Ping Chien and he used his ring for the odd coin. For the cups with coffee cups he used olives or cherries and a table knife (butter knife) for the wand. I forgot what his ending load was - lemons I guess. Ricky Jay felt it was important to have three different fruit. Lemon, onion and potato or something.
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