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Zephury Elite user Hollywood, FL 488 Posts |
My mom is letting me pick out a bunch of stuff from Tannen's to get for Christmas. I've got quite a list and among those things is a Kartis Okito Box. It definitely looks cool.. Comes with a dvd and autograph from Kartis for 60 bucks. It looks higher quality than most okito boxes as well. I'm obsessed with quality. Just because something has a function, it doesn't quite make me happy. I like to have the prettiest things that perform the same function. I am aware that you can get them a lot cheaper; but if I am going to buy an okito box, this is the one I would get.. BUT is the okito box worth it? I've seen a couple pretty cool things with it but most of what I've seen doesn't look very natural and doesn't really deceive me. I can pick up on almost all of it. Am I just watching bad performances? With everything I practice, I'd like to make it worth my while. I have a dream to perform in the Magic Castle. But what my question is.. Is the Okito box an "adult" trick? Are there magicians who deceive fool other magicians with it? I don't really want to get something to where no matter how good I get at it, magicians can follow my every move. I understand that misdirection and showmanship would play a big part in doing that but as a prop itself.. Is it worth getting? Can anyone link me some really good performances with the Okito box? I don't really care to perform for children. I mean.. I like it and all but it's not my goal of a career. I hope to do private parties and stage.. Not birthday parties in a clown suit.
http://www.tannens.com/shop//cart.php?m=......l&p=9042 Thanks! |
Bulla Special user Honolulu, HI 674 Posts |
You shouldn't focus on trying to fool other magicians. Realistically, it doesn't matter much because they're not your spectators.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XESQFzWMYZQ |
Zephury Elite user Hollywood, FL 488 Posts |
I really enjoyed that performance, thank you. And there is a couple of reasons why I'd like to learn more deceptive tricks than others.. even though both things may fool a layman, I'd like to perform thing to where even when an occasion where a magician is present, he will still scratch his head. I understand it's a little far fetched I guess you could say but I hope you get what I mean. Sometimes when performing in front of someone with a higher IQ, they tend to pick up on things that the large majority of people wont.. I don't want people to be able to figure out exactly what I'm doing regardless of what I'm ding. From the routine I saw there, though.. I'm definitely interested in getting it still.
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Bulla Special user Honolulu, HI 674 Posts |
Magicians are actually a lot easier to fool than laymen for the simple fact that we have preconceived notions.
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Zephury Elite user Hollywood, FL 488 Posts |
Thinking about it, that actually makes a lot of sense. From my point of view in the past.. I guess that I can say I take every book's words and turn them in to rules when in fact there are no rules. Our minds can only multi-task so much to try and comprehend what's exactly going on. To someone that looks natural, If I miss one step, and assume one thing, it may actually put me 10 steps behind. Does that make sense then?
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MentalMidget New user 52 Posts |
I'll admit right up front that I perform more mentalism than traditional magic. Beyond that, of the magic I do perform, very little of it is coin-based.
That said, I think of Okito boxes like I think of cups and balls routines -- if your sleights are flawless and your patter is entertaining, it'll be a great experience for everyone watching. The idea that the balls/coins are being swapped is obvious but the entertainment comes from your presentation and the skill with which you execute the sleights. Once everyone catches on, it's entertaining because, even though they basically know what they're looking for, they still can't see it happen. You say you're looking for more 'deceptive' tricks... if you mean you want effects that observers won't be able to figure out, then this probably isn't going to be the best use of your $60. I could be completely alone in this opinion but I think the value of this kind of routine comes more from being able to display your skill and practice in sleight of hand than it does from genuinely fooling spectators. |
Mark Williams Special user Las Vegas, Nevada 513 Posts |
Watched this one the other day...it looks pretty good, as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=100n9CnFjXw Best Magical Regards, Mark Williams
"Once is Magic!! Twice is an Education!!"
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Zephury Elite user Hollywood, FL 488 Posts |
Very deceiving to just about any spectator. Thank you for the link, Mark. I definitely see more of what's possible with the box now. The performances I had seen before hand were just too sketchy and obvious as to whats going on.
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Flyswatter Veteran user 370 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciB4C0Rk_1Q
It was the David Roth routine using his special slot box. |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Do you need a sixty dollar brass prop to do a penetration?
OKITO did it with a five cent cardboard pill box! I have a little tin "box". I THINK that I "found" it in a kid's magic set. I do use it occasionally, and somehow, I manage to entertain them. (Of course,it does require a bit of talent and a "tad" of SHOWMANSHIP!) I've been working on THAT for 63 years, and lately, I think I'm beginning to acquire a bit and a "tad". Maybe if I had bought that sixty dollar prop in 1946.................Nah! I'll stick with my little tin box. Then, again, my EXPANSION OF TEXTURE aint too bad--and I can borrow the handkerchief.
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