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magovituco New user Spain 35 Posts |
A new form of magic is being developed in France. called "LE NOUVELLE MAGIE".
Combining magic with other branches and the expression of the magician in all its fullness. There academic course in France in the National Center of Cirque arts : http://www.cnac.fr/cnac-594-Magie_nouvelle and we can see some videos of this new trend here: http://vimeo.com/19867126 What do you think? |
w_s_anderson Inner circle The United States 1226 Posts |
While I respect the skill, practice, and effort put into it I did not find it that appealing. It's just not my thing I guess.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
Very nice, I'd love to see the whole show so I could see the acts in context. I particularly liked the slow motion juggler.
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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MrHyde Special user 810 Posts |
Interesting. As Payne said, I would like to see the whole to see how it's tied together.
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AllAboutMagic Veteran user California 333 Posts |
I liked the slow motion juggling, but I don't think a whole act of it would be great.. I would be cool to see a regular juggling act and then the juggler goes into some sort of slow motion with his movements and the pins move slow as well. Then he speeds back up into his normal routine.
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Rigonally New user 12 Posts |
Hola, Davituco! Do you remember meeting in Santiago de Compostela in 2005? You taught me your version of card warp. Thank you for this post. It's one of the only ones on magie nouvelle in the North American forums. I find it pretty amazing that there is a state-funded circus school in France where a person can complete a two-year program studying magic performance. Can anybody think of an equivalent in the US or Canada? I doubt it. We should work on that. I just published an interview with Philippe Beau in the December 2015 issue of Genii. We talk about the magie nouvelle school and some of the magicians involved. Etienne Saglio's Soir des Monstres / An Evening of Monsters was an excellent show. I also enjoyed seeing CLOC in France in November. Here is an illusion from CLOC that was performed on Penn and Teller's Fool Us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1COO_Yd5e4
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2607 Posts |
While I always enjoy seeing other artists appropriate magic effects and technology for their own use, it's not really a new age for magic or actual magicians. It's just yet another time that people have tried to use magic to increase their own value and marketability. If they had spent the decades of time most of us have learning and perfecting this craft, I might have more respect for them.
Ray Pierce
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On Jan 7, 2016, Ray Pierce wrote: +1
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
Rigonally New user 12 Posts |
Interesting reactions. I agree that calling magie nouvelle a "New Age" is hyperbolic. Literally, 1 Age = 1,000,000 years. So, homo sapiens have a while to go before a new age in the performing art of magic occurs. Value and marketing? Sure, that's part of what each new generation of artists has to establish. In terms of how much time magie nouvelle performers have logged learning and perfecting their craft, I think that many of the magie nouvelle artists are doing well. Yann Frisch has clearly put in his time — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy0T-55dru4. Most magie nouvelle performers are in the early or the middle stage of their careers, but the state funding in France for artists gives them more dedicated time to focus on creation, experimentation, development and performance. Those coming out of the CNAC circus school are being trained by professional performers in other areas too: dance, movement, acrobatics, theatre, clown, etc. You can see this training in Frisch's number. This approach to magic, and other variety arts, produces a different style than the traditional US one. It's a difference somewhat similar to the circus produced in the states vs circus produced in Québec or France. For me, one system doesn't necessarily produce better performers or performances than the other. That's a subjective question of taste. The styles, mentors and institutions in each place are simply different. What interests me is that they have built a state-funded, degree-granting school where magic is mixing with other disciplines to produce new combinations. I hope that we can agree that more magic, different magic, new magic is better than less.
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2607 Posts |
I have no doubt these performers have spent countless years perfecting their other crafts and art forms. As someone who runs a circus school I know the discipline it takes to become even moderately proficient in the Circus arts. They would probably not dream of attempting acrobatic and aerial tricks with the same minimum investment of time and energy they apparently expended inserting a magic trick into their shows. Yes, Yann is exceptional and a wonderful example of an amazing multi disciplinarian artist. I just don't feel the others had his same level of magic skills. I wish they had.
Ray Pierce
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
This sure looks like Vaudeville in slow motion. I don't think I've seen anything new but it was interesting for 6 minutes.
Jay Leslie
www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com |
Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
It is not that engaging, and the magic is thrown away as simple special effects for the story. It would be hard to remember any of the magic--mostly just the sight gags like pulling the girls legs off.
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