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Magician Shaun Special user Huntington BCH, CA 924 Posts |
I hope that others will share something useful with everyone as well.
I am going to share with everyone, my ID routine. If you are confused this is a trick done with a pack of cards. If your still confused, then your probably in the wrong section. This routine is not always in my shows. I use it sometimes and others I don't. I use it for both street and private shows. On the street I do this routine if there are a lot of adults in my crowds, I am on a slow pitch and need to drag out the build, I am on a good pitch and need to drag out the build, I just want an extra 10 minutes in my show for some reason. You will need to be wearing a jacket. You will need to place your ID in your inside coat pocket, which ever you prefer is fine. To begin the effect you will reach into your pocket to get something for the next trick. While in your pocket remove the ID and place it into the top of your sleeve. Then bring out nothing and pretend to hand a spectator an imaginary deck of cards. I like to mention that the results are the best when we use our imaginations. I then play out some the standard ID bits...i.e. choose a card, show it to everyone, you put it back upside down, etc. Make a few gestures with your empty hands but don't say anything about it. Next you will ask your spectator to replace the cards into the box and you will mime handing them the box. In doing this, allow the ID you placed in your sleeve earlier to fall to the fingers of that hand. Try to have this hand away from the spectator you are working with. (I use my left hand so keep my spectator on my right when doing this effect.) You hold the deck in a Jumbo Coin Classic Palm. Pretend to take the deck that has been placed back into it's box in your other hand. As you do so, you will pretend to toss the imaginary deck into the hand holding the ID. As you do this you will turn the hand holding the ID palm up, and the audience will see the deck appear. Just make sure that you don't think about the ID in your hand, only the imaginary one you are pretending to hold. That is very important. I always get audible gasps and "did you just see that..." kinda responses to this, so you know it is good. It is the easiest production you will ever do and one of the most magical. Finally, you will do whatever ID reveal that you like. Personally, I remind the audience that the spectator imagined a card, and that if any of what they had seen was real and not just some figment of their imagination, then the card, the....spectatorsNamedCard would be face down. And I then reveal the card. Give it a try, tell me what you think. It's a great way to do the ID and adds a little more magic to your show. Sometimes I say the deck holds a prediction. I then ask the spec to name their card, and go into ID reveal. Making it more of a mind reading style effect. It depends on my mood and the type of spectators and what I feel is more entertaining. That is tried and tested on the street - HUNDREDS of performances. |
writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts |
It's very nice, but do you really get ten minutes out of it?
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Yes! TEN MINUTES!
I was visiting Karrell Fox about 20 years ago, and went with him on an after dinner club date in Dearborn. He opened with a Walsh cane. Then he did a ten minute comedy monolog. He followed that with a C&R rope (with Brakawa Wand, etc.--nine minutes)He CLOSED witih an ID, using all the schtick (little red table, etc.)TEN STRONG MINUTES! Shaun! Nice use of the sleeve load! I haven't seen this in EONS! As a teenager, I used the concept (quite sure it was in TARBELL). Tsrbell had a coin vanish that used a steal out of the coin. After the steal, I went to the shirt pocket for a pen, and dropped the coin in the sleeve. The coin was vanished. The empty hand dropped to my side, and the coin was caught. The coin reappeared. It always played! Thanks 2 million for reminding me of the technique! Next time I do the ID, I'll add the sleeve load! That's the problem with getting old, One tends to forget GOOD bits!
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Magician Shaun Special user Huntington BCH, CA 924 Posts |
The appearance of the deck is way more startling and impressive than you think. Try it sometime. The technique is just like when you make a jumbo coin grow. You are going to basically Bobo Switch the imaginary deck for the ID and it looks real good!
Dick, no problem. The sleeve load is awesome and I have seen it used in other applications and thought it was perfect for this style of ID routine. |
Devious Inner circle 2120 Posts |
Mr Oslund are you familiar with a gentleman named Opie Houston from Texas?
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Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
10/4 Shaun!
It's one of those techniques that fade into oblivion (or cyber space or wherever those things "go", when they don't get used fairly often. I'm very happy that you reminded me! Hello Devious! The name is vaguely familiar, but, I can't put a face with the name. I'll plead "stupidity" or "old age" (whichever I can get away with!) And, MR. Oslund was my father! I appreciate your courtesy, but, MR. is for old geezers, and I'm only 82! Dick Oslund Sneaky, underhanded, DEVIOUS, and surreptitious itinerant mountebanc
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1336 Posts |
Shaun
Thanks for sharing. So great to hear of real world working examples
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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Magician Shaun Special user Huntington BCH, CA 924 Posts |
We spend so much time trying to find the perfect trick or effect or whatever when there are great effects right here for us to use.
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writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts |
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On May 3, 2014, Dick Oslund wrote: Yikes. It appears I have much to learn about pacing and entertainment value. Here's James James doing the cups and balls for his finale. Clocks in at about seven minutes (although Gazzo manages more than ten): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_UgjRvTSgw If I tried to get ten minutes out of an ID, I'd need to have an intermission. |
Dick Oslund Inner circle 8357 Posts |
Hello Writeall!
When you're THROUGH LEARNING--YOU'RE THROUGH! (I've been "at it" since 1945, and I have learned a lot, but, I still pick up an occasinal idea! INTERMISSION "is when" (oy, such grammar)Blackstone (et al!) SOLD the "trick package"! (This "inside money" kept the show on the road!) Back in '75,I started usind a trick, and all I had was a premise, and a few lines. It was a strong EFFECT. By the end of the season, it had grown so strong that I could CLOSE the high school program with it! Thirty years later, it was still running just 2 minutes, --but a STRONG 2 minutes! (Not bad for a "dollar" trick!!!) Karrell's act fit HIS personality. As a young fellow, starting out, he "did" the comedy snake in the basket. THAT was his ACT! Just a few years before he died, he did the auto show tour with a piece of rope! (He did the G.W. HUNTER "IMPOSSIBLE KNOT" with a few additional "bits"! MY program (45 minutes)is a COLLECTION of "bits and pieces". I use some relatively standard tricks with standard props. It's the bits of business that provide the "frosting on the cake"! When I presented doves (for 25 years) the TWO bird PRODUCTIONS(with lots of "schtick") was an 8 minute routine! -- almost 1/5 of the 45 minute show. (The set-up took less than a minute, the props were a dove bag, a couple silks, one 10" linking ring, a wooden egg, and a feather. If you're using the ID, and get "ONLY" 6 minutes, and the routine PLAYS! --that probably is "right" for YOU. Never forget! THE PERFORMER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PROP!!!!!!!!!!!
SNEAKY, UNDERHANDED, DEVIOUS,& SURREPTITIOUS ITINERANT MOUNTEBANK
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Magician Shaun Special user Huntington BCH, CA 924 Posts |
During your routines you need to make sure that after every 'effect' you give the audience time to register and react. It takes a lot of time and practice. You have to be on the lookout for the audience to recognize what you have done. Then once they recognize it you have to give them time to react.
In the beginning this will take effort and practice. Later it will come more naturally. This will help extend many routines much farther than you thought originally possible. |
tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
I will confirm Shawn's routining works, I have been using this method with the ID for years in my strolling when addition I do is with a topit at the end I say wait we did say this was an invisible deck right and poof so it goes. Thank you Michael Ammar.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On May 3, 2014, Magician Shaun wrote: The problem is ... most magicians don't have the 6alls to stick with something they already know and spend years with it to turn it into something great and unique. Instead they troll forums looking for the holy grail, perform it a few times, decide it sucks, then troll for the next miracle. Looks like the OP in this case, took a trick we all know, kept with it for years and did exactly what all the pros do... turned it into a signature piece over time. Ta Da!
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