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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts 
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Besides- neither Richard or I smoke cigars and Vernon couldn't sing.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12967 Posts
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On May 19, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: Hey Bob PM me I want to send you some words. J |
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MichaelCGM Inner circle Oklahoma City 2286 Posts
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On May 19, 2014, Richard Osterlind wrote: While I agree that the art, itself isn't about comparisons and competitions, one's legacy is something that others bestow upon those who work diligently and faithfully to elevate the art and to both maintain the quality and the integrity of the art they love. One’s legacy, like one’s beauty, is in the eye of the beholder and cannot be self-achieved. Thanks again, Richard for your love of and contributions to mentalism. |
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guitarmagic Elite user Southern Louisiana 425 Posts
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I admire, support, endear, venerate and enjoy the works and performances of ALL the great performers aforementioned as well as others not mentioned here, living and dead. GREAT is GREAT . . . period. Beyond them being performers and even more importantly: THEY ARE GREAT PEOPLE!!! And I am open-heartedly thankful and grateful to you all for sharing your works. You are all champions.
Why is it that on one side of the world a person looks at a picture of the Grand Canyon and says, "it looks so real." At the same time on the other side of the world a person looks at the Grand Canyon and says, "it looks like a picture."
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MentalistCreationLab Inner circle 1528 Posts
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On May 19, 2014, mastermindreader wrote: Lets not forget the other hundred or so marketed and non marketed products/effcet that you have contributions in or have worked on or consultated on over the many years. Now Bob I would not go as far as saying that your a Vernon of mentalism or anything like that after all there is only one Vernon but I will say your contributions to the art of mentalism are of paramount importance to the art as a whole. As there is only one Vernon there's only one Bob as well. I don't think I could handle two of you anyway. So I jsut really wanted to say thank you again for all your help in the past not only for the works of mine you assiasted with be helping me keep ground in tradition aspects but for all of your help in the art of mentalism as a whole. -Bill Montana PS I still think 39 steps should be a sticky at the top of the Penny section of this forum. And I also still think it should be expanded and I not changing my mind about that. |
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Doc Ben Loyal user Phoenix, AZ 261 Posts
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[quote]On May 18, 2014, landmark wrote:
It might help to define what is meant by being the "Dai Vernon" of a field. To me, Vernon's place of importance in magic is because of his: 1) Teaching and mentoring. 2) Insistence that methods and performance could and should be refined until they appeared absolutely natural. 3) Feeling that fields outside of magic (in Vernon's case, gambling in particular) could provide fruitful avenues of investigation for the magician. I would not rule out including "The Professor's" character, humor "wrankling" attitude and presentation.....when considering who today is "the Dai Vernon of mentalism". I only saw him twice perform and lecture in person, and several times saw and heard recordings, but IMHO as a totality, there is no one since "like Dai Vernon"...!  
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" (the original F. Baum)
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bdekolta Inner circle Texas 1636 Posts
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Well Vernon's printed output was far less than many today. But people trying to make the comparison probably don't understand what Vernon was about. Trying to explain that is a bit tough. In my opinion there isn't a Vernon of mentalism. Or magic for that matter today. But the Annemann connection may be the closest. Except that Annemann published a lot as opposed to Vernon. If you didn't know him and what he was about it is difficult to understand.
If you saw Vernon "twice perform" then you were doing pretty good on that front. He really wasn't a performer. Some people like to argue that point but it is true. He was a silhouette cutter. Doesn't mean he never performed but it wasn't that frequent of an event. I bring that up because most of the people mentioned for being his replacement are performers. Annemann wasn't much of a performer either. Didn't like doing it. But he was a heck of a good writer. |
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Davidzajac New user 63 Posts
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There really is no comparison. Not even to Annemann because comparing what someone does to elevate his/her art with someone else is sure to be completely wrong. No one is the equivalent of another and, if you were comparing time periods that is still sure to be inaccurate.
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IbiMania Regular user Dubai, United Arab Emirates 108 Posts
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I will not compare to Dai Vernon but what is being perceived by some as Dai here, I will use that perception for comparison.
legendary performer: Dunninger legendary teacher: Tony Cordina Classic both: Anneman
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Sven Rygh Inner circle Oslo, Norway. 1945 Posts
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On May 17, 2014, Jamie Ferguson wrote: You don't know what you are talking about.
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Lior Inner circle 1961 Posts
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I think that Max,Bob and Richard are the big 3.
They are giving for the art for so many years. Amazing Lior
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