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SmileAndNod Veteran user 316 Posts |
Found this gem in Routined Manipulation Finale. I'm not much of a card magician, but I really like this routine. Would love to hear what you guys think of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wn6nceZwNE |
Brogan_C New user 60 Posts |
Looks like a neat routine, but you seem really nervous in the video.
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MuscleMagic Special user 794 Posts |
Well done
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Eldini Regular user Las Vegas 127 Posts |
Looks great to me. cool twist on cutting the aces.
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AaronSterling Veteran user 319 Posts |
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On Aug 18, 2014, SmileAndNod wrote: I enjoyed your video, thanks for posting it. That said: 1) Is your webcam mike right next to your cooling fan? It's really annoying. Maybe figure out a way to eliminate that noise. 2) I knew what the final effect was going to be as soon as you said the first card was an ace. I'm not sure if that was because of something inherent in the effect, or if your presentation telegraphed the conclusion. Something you might want to think about -- how to maintain surprise. 3) The general rule about all-backs routines is that they are for magicians only, because lay people are immediately put off by the presence of cards printed in a way they've never seen before. The routine gets demoted from trick to puzzle. Every once in a while, someone publishes something and says, "But *this* all backs routine can be done for lay people too," but I've never been convinced, personally. 4) The most impossible all backs routine I know of is in the complete Derek Dingle. Kaufman writes something like, "Use this routine to crush the souls of your magician friends at the club." It's definitely worth a look. Hope you found this useful. |
arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1773 Posts |
My favorite All Backs routine (attributed to Dai Vernon) is in the book Super Subtle Card Miracles by Frank Garcia. I love it because it can be performed with anyone's deck, and shuffled by the spectator.
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SmileAndNod Veteran user 316 Posts |
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2) I knew what the final effect was going to be as soon as you said the first card was an ace. I'm not sure if that was because of something inherent in the effect, or if your presentation telegraphed the conclusion. Something you might want to think about -- how to maintain surprise. Was that because: a) You've spent enough time in magic that it is obvious b) My switch wasn't good enough and it was obvious the card I put down was different c) I didn't show both sides of the card in a convincing way Thanks for the reply! |
AaronSterling Veteran user 319 Posts |
When you pointed to the card and said, "This is actualy an ace," I thought, "Oh, he's going to lay down four DBs that turn into the four aces when the deck turns back into a normal deck." So it was before you did a move, hence not (b) or (c).
I am not sure if it was (a) or not. But here's what I'm getting at. In the performance on Red Mirror, Helder Guimaraes puts four unknown cards into a wallet at the beginning of a routine, and toward the end of the routine an audience member guesses that a vanished card is in the wallet. It isn't true, but the final climax is that signed cards end up in the wallet, so the climax was muted by the fact that the spectators kinda sorta knew what was going to happen. By contrast, Darwin's Dream Card just kills, because the card in the wallet shown at the beginning couldn't possibly be the card the spectators think is important, because the card in the wallet has a red back, and the important card has a blue back. So the possibility of surprise is preserved. Getting back to your video: Maybe I could see the climax faster than a lay audience, but by the time you lay down the third ace, I bet some sharp cookie would be able to figure out where things were going. So it's good practice to routine the effect so the ending can't be predicted. With rare exceptions like wild card, where the end of the trick isn't a climax so much as it is a victory -- the magician was able to do the same impossible thing with everything, yay. And even there, it's possible to add a climax onto a wild card routine. |
Tim Hughes New user Shropshire 25 Posts |
Very neatly done - I'm sure it would be easier to do to a live audience. You have given yourself a challenge by making the routine more complicated than Mr Elmsley did - it would be worth asking yourself if that was needed - a lay audience may not require the extra sleights to be impressed.
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SmileAndNod Veteran user 316 Posts |
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On Aug 21, 2014, Tim Hughes wrote: I just really disliked Elmsley's method of ditching the dbl. I'm not sure mine was much better though. |
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