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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts 
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"All Cockatoos are psychokinetic creatures." Now this statement is logically equivalent to the statement: "All non-psychokinetic creatures are not Cockatoos." Actually what Jack has proven is that he doesn't understand logic. 0pus |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2004-01-25 16:02, 0pus wrote: Those two statements are indeed logical equivalents.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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John Clarkson Special user Santa Barbara, CA 749 Posts
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Quote: Does that mean we can now remove the newspapers from the cyber-floor of the Magic Café?
On 2004-01-25 16:01, landmark wrote: 
John D. Clarkson, S.O.B. (Sacred Omphaloskeptic Brotherhood)
Cozener "There is nothing more important to a magician than keeping secrets. Probably because so many of them are Gay." —Peggy, from King of the Hill (Sleight of Hank) |
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DaveS Veteran user New York 329 Posts
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On 2004-01-24 15:57, Luke Kerr wrote: I think you're being disingenuous, Luke, and insulting our intelligence... or maybe you're just pulling our leg? The page you quote actually says: _____________________________________ "Uri Geller claims he has bent spoons mentally for over 20 years now. Magicians love to demonstrate "How" he does it, using a form of sleight-of-hand. Just because magicians can duplicate it, does not mean that is how Uri Geller is doing it. In this day and age with the technology we have available to us, if Uri was using sleight-of-hand instead of Mentalism and mental ability, I am sure he would have been exposed long ago, and not just by a two bit magician riding the coat tails of a legend." ____________________________________ Quote:
I'm disappointed in the direction this thread has taken. I hope she's persistent about wanting to learn and understands that there are many folks here who remember what it was like to be a newcomer and who are willing to nurture beginners who demonstrate a passion for learning, a sincere respect for our art and a desire to participate in and contribute to the discussion. This forum is still about "Magicians Helping Magicians." Come back, Christina! 
DaveS
We shall not cease from exploration/And the end of all our exploring/Will be to arrive where we started/And know the place for the first time. (TS Elliot)
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Neal Roter Regular user 107 Posts
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You wrote,"I am not interested in reading books". Any reason why?
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John Clarkson Special user Santa Barbara, CA 749 Posts
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Jack,
While I think the proof for psychokinetic cockatoos is non-existent, there is, apparently, at least one telepathic parrot. See the article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3430481.stm According to the article, "In an experiment, the bird and his owner were put in separate rooms and filmed as the artist opened random envelopes containing picture cards. "Analysis showed the parrot had used appropriate keywords three times more often than would be likely by chance." So, there you go...
John D. Clarkson, S.O.B. (Sacred Omphaloskeptic Brotherhood)
Cozener "There is nothing more important to a magician than keeping secrets. Probably because so many of them are Gay." —Peggy, from King of the Hill (Sleight of Hank) |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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Everything I used to deny could happen is now happening.
Jack
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Lord Of The Horses Inner circle 5406 Posts
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Long live to Luke Kerr and to the list on http://www.mentalist.info !
Does Geller bends spoon with his mind? YES. Do Mentalists use their intuition, ESP or whatever in addition to what you could call "tricks"? YES! Do skeptics deny anything they cannot explain? YES!
Then you'll rise right before my eyes, on wings that fill the sky, like a phoenix rising!
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Does Geller bend spoons with his mind? No.
Do mentalists use "intuition, ESP, or whatever?" Of course. It's called psychology. Do skeptics deny anything they cannot explain? Not necessarily. Do some mentalists's egos thrive on the fact that there is a cultural pathology by which many audience members believe that they have supernatural powers, because they desperately want to believe in such phenomena? Oh, you'd better believe it. [quote]On 2004-01-25 19:56, DaveS wrote: Quote:
This forum is still about "Magicians Helping Magicians." Yes, but what do "magicians" have to do with bona fide psychics, psychokinetics, and the like? Magicians, indeed. Hmph! Reducing it to mere trickers. Now, does anyone have a good keybending resource?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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DaveS Veteran user New York 329 Posts
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[quote]On 2004-01-27 13:19, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2004-01-25 19:56, DaveS wrote: Touche! 
BTW, it seems that Mr. Kerr has deleted his posts and deserted this thread. Also, the web site Mr. Kerr directed us to in his posts: http://www.mentalist.info is linked to: http://www.mentalist.com, a site promoting Gerry McCambridge's TV show -- "The Mentalist." Seems like an odd juxtaposition of sites (and viewpoints)? 
DaveS
We shall not cease from exploration/And the end of all our exploring/Will be to arrive where we started/And know the place for the first time. (TS Elliot)
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Some people have a vested interest in perpetuating mistaken beliefs. Personally, I think mentalism can be very entertaining without actively promoting a faulty world view. That's for each performer to decide for himself.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Bambaladam Special user 636 Posts
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If you won't allow a door to be left open to the possibility there may be things we do not yet fully understand, you are doing yourself a disservice.
Also, no performer who is not running a cult of some kind is actively promoting anything except the entertainment of his audience. You may feel a certain performer should be more or less honest about what his performance consists of, and that is a point of contention and debate, but please don't assume there are entertainers who rub their hands with glee at the notion of actively promoting a metaphysical agenda. /bamba |
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