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hady.87 New user 88 Posts |
Hey folks
Did anyone tried or heard any review about this system www.magic4speakers.com ? i am interested in the idea of performing magic with a message specially for corporate functions but not sure about this system . any recommendation ? Regards
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charliecheckers Inner circle 1969 Posts |
I would approach this with a skeptical perspective. There are components that are in poor taste, especially when describing how he is giving away secrets of top professional magicians (which of course he is not). I also think any trick can be incorporated into a presentation, depending on what you are trying to convey. This seems aimed at people who are not only not magicians, but those naive about what magic performing is. It seems to prey upon that naivetéi .
If you have a lot of money to spend then $500+ might be ok to give you a basic understanding of how to incorporate magic into presentations and offer a few ideas that worked for this speaker in his presentations with his style. This should be considered your beginning efforts and only one source of education and investment. He does not offer a guarantee, but I will. I guarantee that if you are not currently an effective corporate speaker, this program will not make you one. |
Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
I too would stay away from this product. It's not really meant for magicians, but rather lay people. I really didn't care for it and the information is very general and very common knowledge, elementary stuff. While I like Tom and he does have some good material (which this book will lead you to buy his real high priced courses, which I do like), this has little to do with truly performing magic as part of a speaking presentation. Its more about introducing a few quick and basic tricks to transition, demonstrate or connect with an audience.
If you can not connect with an audience on your own, through your personality, confidence and content, the magic really will make do difference. If anything it can damage your credibility in many situations. My advice...learn all you can about being a speaker or presenter FIRST. All of the key components - content, proper style and presentation, format and delivery, connection, establishing credibility, interaction and engagement, stagecraft, accompaniment (audio and visual), calls to action, backend materials, selling from the stage, and so on, THEN if you feel you want or need to add magic to your already established foundation and format, it will be much easier to understand and do, if at that point you feel its needed at all. Often magic in a speaking presentation can also be a crutch or diversion from the real content, especially for beginners. Once your content is in place if you do decide you still want to add magic, your content will dictate what magic to use. I hope that makes sense to you. Best of luck. |
Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
From Toastmasters International....
10 Tips for Public Speaking Feeling some nervousness before giving a speech is natural and even beneficial, but too much nervousness can be detrimental. Here are some proven tips on how to control your butterflies and give better presentations: 1. Know your material. Pick a topic you are interested in. Know more about it than you include in your speech. Use humor, personal stories and conversational language – that way you won’t easily forget what to say. 2. Practice. Practice. Practice! Rehearse out loud with all equipment you plan on using. Revise as necessary. Work to control filler words; Practice, pause and breathe. Practice with a timer and allow time for the unexpected. 3. Know the audience. Greet some of the audience members as they arrive. It’s easier to speak to a group of friends than to strangers. 4. Know the room. Arrive early, walk around the speaking area and practice using the microphone and any visual aids. 5. Relax. Begin by addressing the audience. It buys you time and calms your nerves. Pause, smile and count to three before saying anything. ("One one-thousand, two one-thousand, three one-thousand. Pause. Begin.) Transform nervous energy into enthusiasm. 6. Visualize yourself giving your speech. Imagine yourself speaking, your voice loud, clear and confident. Visualize the audience clapping – it will boost your confidence. 7. Realize that people want you to succeed. Audiences want you to be interesting, stimulating, informative and entertaining. They’re rooting for you. 8. Don’t apologize for any nervousness or problem – the audience probably never noticed it. 9. Concentrate on the message – not the medium. Focus your attention away from your own anxieties and concentrate on your message and your audience. 10. Gain experience. Mainly, your speech should represent you — as an authority and as a person. Experience builds confidence, which is the key to effective speaking. A Toastmasters club can provide the experience you need in a safe and friendly environment. I will not speak pro or con to the video system presented above, as I do not know it. I will say that from the pitch, I am not clear on exactly what he is trying to teach and/or sell. If you want to learn to speak in front of a crowd, go to your local toastmasters meeting. (I do not belong to them and get nothing for reccomending them) Toastermasters can make a competent speaker out of nearly anyone and it costs very little. The magic in his videos is good. I can see it being worked into a presentation very easily. Is he teaching the magic? Teaching how to insert magic? again I am not clear. Do you know the business world? I do not. I could not be successful at speaking to a business aduience about business unless I did some serious studying, and even then, my lack of experience would shine through. Maybe that is what he is teaching in his video series? Overall I do not think I would buy this product, at least not with out some serious research first. WOuld he be wiling to give you some contacts of satisfied customers to talk to? Then you might get an idea if this will work for you. Just my opinion. Good luck either way.
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
Tom Antion is a very good speaker and trainer. This product is a JV with magician and speaker/salesman Steve Hart who provided the magic context. Steve pops in here one in a while to promote or support his products so he will likely chime in when word gets to him to defend this.
This product is not one of Tom's main products but more of a "support" product or additional product targeted to speakers to add an "entertaining" or "personality" element to their presentations. Many speakers, especially in the beginning are flat, non-engaging and lack experiences, stories and character, so the idea is to use "magic" to interject some "show" into their presentation. They use a general or tie-in between the trick and the applied message they are trying to convey. I'm sure as a secondary market this can be directed at magicians wanting to add or transition into speaking. I'm not sure this purpose would be as well served as the intended "additional element" to current speakers. I would say this is not a training of how to be a speaker for magicians. The responses I've heard were from those that mistakenly believed this is what it was. The other thing some magicians have said is some of the material is a bit outdated or applies more to specific markets or types of presentation. |
Pizpor Elite user 476 Posts |
Good points.
I was the one that brought up this product in a different tread where hady.87 asked about resources for adding magic to corporate presentations. I have this product having obtained it a number of years ago when I attending one of Steve Harts Speaking for Magicians seminars in Florida. To be honest, I had no idea of the price on this package when I made the recent referral. I think I got it for free, or next to nothing as part of the seminar package. For the purpose of giving ideas of how certain tricks can illustrate a certain point, its a stating point. The presentations provided are like patter that comes with a trick - you typically don't use it. Its there to foster ideas and point to a possibility. As has already been stated, to be a successful speaker in the corporate market requires expertise in a topic and a good presence on stage. Adding gimmicks to a speech like a magic trick really needs to be well thought out for them to be effective at enhancing your point. I use a couple of illusions very effectively when I present in my field, but I know to be very thoughtful about what I want the illusion to accomplish for me. For example, I've used a very simple packet trick, projected on a screen, to illustrate one of the core aspects of inattentional blindness. I've found that when you are able to directly illustrate aspects of your discussion in real time, it can be very effective and memorable. |
TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Tom is a top result getter and has zillions of others do the same... he's a good man, a great marketer and KNOWS (based on Real-World EXPERIENCE) what legitimately works and what does not... even if only by sheer volume of experience and results he achieves and helps other get as well. - Super smart cat for sure! - - He was also a performing magician and comedy guy, which he draws on in his own highly paid speaker presentations over the years!
Steve is a good guy and still a full-time magician and speaker performer/presenter as well. As a library of resources... worth every penny and more! Like ANY tool and/or resource toolbox, it is ONLY as good as the hands that hold and apply them. - A single hammer can be used to build something beautiful, OR it can be used to beat someone to death. (A medaphor that does NOT escape the poor performer in ANY presentation... Hehehehe!) It's less about the tools in the toolbox and MORE about the craftsman. As tools in a toolbox, you use the right tool for the right job... sometimes a hammer will due while other times the task/job requires the finesse of a single blade screwdriver... right? -- Imagine NOT having a small allen-wrench after returning home from a buying trip top IKEA. You may rarely, if ever NEED that little allen-wrench, but it's sure good to have one when you go to build your recent purchase. This set of reference tools are only as good as the craftsmen, but it's SURE IS NICE to have the right tools for the right job 'when you need them'! If you have the resources to add some tools to the ol' toolbox, I say Go For It! (But You MUST know how to use them!) Anyone can wield a hammer, but it takes the skill of a trained craftsman and artizen to create something beautiful. Just another guys insight, opinion and experience. Hope that adds to the conversation... I am at Your service and In HIS Service, ~ Deano in Reno <><
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