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MVoss Veteran user Boston, MA 372 Posts |
See, this kills me, because magic square in my mind is a great effect, but I can't actually do math in my head that quickly. I just know that as soon as I perform it, someone is going to quiz me, and I'll look like an idiot. Generally, I think, especially in the younger generations, my own included, growing up with calculators has made math more difficult from the head. I also worry about the pressure it could put on an audience member that has to add everything up.
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sunnymagician New user 19 Posts |
Those who say mathematical magic is boring should see Arthur Benjamin's Maths shows.
Could anybody spot a boring moment? |
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jstreiff Special user 701 Posts |
Arthur Benjamin's act is not boring because he does the calculations; the audience is secondary. The challenge discussed in this thread, at least initially, is to do with audience members' calculations and their speed and accuracies.
John
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
I would never trust audience members to add up even simple tasks. If I do something involving numbers I will do it and the spectators job is just to verify everything.
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
I would never trust audience members to add up even simple tasks. If I do something involving numbers I will do it and the spectators job is just to verify everything.
By failing to prepare, we are preparing to fail.
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erikdobell Regular user Gatlinburg Tennessee 139 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2015, doriancaudal wrote: By being entertaining. Remember, Knight's Tour used to be in the program of a lot of great mentalists and magicians. It's not easy with effects like that, but it can be done and folks are really impressed by them. |
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Davidzajac New user 63 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2015, Cervier wrote: I think Annemann suggested a lot of great ideas about the topic, which I see you have some here. One way to make it especially interesting is to use their names or something of interest to them (the most extreme being their name) and somehow mathematically come up with the right name or use a storyline based on politics like in g***nment w***rdry in summer extra 1936 for the Jinx. I think you can adopt it to a modern program. One aspect of guessing the name could be based on their astrology (but I can't find where in the Jinx I read about the astrology effect) Also, the l**ky n***er m***c s****e, by Royal V. Heath, the idea being that its not just math tricks because it has some mental not to mention personal elements. simplicity is key I especially mention Annemann because I am spending my time studying it and I am open and free to your thoughts as well. |
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
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On Apr 7, 2015, Mike Ince wrote: Have you seen my Magic Square / Plate Spinning routine?
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OTTOEMEZZO Special user 544 Posts |
In my opinion, and I might be in the minority here, math effects are usually not very entertaining. Don't get me wrong, I love math and actually studied math related subjects in the University (Finance was my major), but I feel like, and again this is only my opinion, math is inherently boring to the average participant and I try to avoid math effects in my performances.
-Vlad
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Robb Inner circle 1291 Posts |
I will agree with the consensus here that generally speaking, math based routines are not the most entertaining things to watch. That said, I perform a variations of Greg Arce's version of Larry Becker's "Awesum Total" and that goes over pretty well. But I think it's because of my premise which is that EVERYBODY HATES MATH, wouldn't it be great if you could solve a math problem without even knowing the numbers involved? As Richard Osterlind is fond of saying, that's a power people would actually want so it has an intrinsic hook.
Using math to force a number? There are better ways that don't leave lingering questions about the mathematical procedure. |
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ko_brian Veteran user 343 Posts |
I would go for it. For exemple Marc Paul's Summing Up effect, done with the numbers on post it notes, is very nice and very very hard to back track.
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Chris K Inner circle 2544 Posts |
Michael Murray's Cal-Ender represents the kind of "math" effect I like.
Can do any of the following using that approach (not all together, each is one approach using Murray's type of effect): -combine with Lior Manor's Mobile Opener for a prediction -mentally pluck the number out of one of the participant's minds (yes, you really know their exact number, after they entered it and cleared the borrowed calculator) -show the same volunteer that you can mentally pluck all the numbers (3-4) entered in the phone as well as their number too (and, optionally, what they all total I guess) The idea here is that math isn't the point. At all. Math can often just come off as a puzzle (in my opinion). Hence using math but using it to generate random numbers to reveal (as opposed to "multiply by 9 and divide by 2, then..."). As such, I would never say I was using math in a routine, I was generating random numbers, with/without emotional importance, to demonstrate telepathy (for example). |
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