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Don-G Regular user Cheshire England 166 Posts |
I recently bought the '5 rope repeat' in my clubs magic auction and found that there was no instructions included. I can sort out my own presentation for the effect but I am having great difficulty getting the inner rope back in place. Does anyone have any tips or advice as to how I sort this out please? I have tried with a long length of wire but still struggling.
Don-G |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I guess you are missing the gimmick, although it is sort of a wire. I believe it is published in the book about his magic called, Fetsching Magic, The life and Legacy of Hen Fetsch by Robert Spencer, published in 2007. My book is stored away, but I vaguely remember it being in there, just not 100% positive.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S8884 |
Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
The loading gimmick is, as Bill has suggested, simply a long piece if stiff wire. A wire coat hanger, straightened out will do the job.
It was my impression that this was what the original gimmick was made from! One end of the wire is 'inserted' into the rope right near one end (the ends should be bound in some way which provides a 'stop' for the end of the wire to rest against) and the rope held taught against the length of the wire. The rest should be obvious to those who have the props. Hope that helps.
Neal Austin
"The golden rule is that there are no golden rules." G.B. Shaw |
Don-G Regular user Cheshire England 166 Posts |
I had figured out that I needed a long length of stiff wire but this did not come with the ropes in our auction. After a bit of trial and error I have now mastered the problem of loading the inner rope into the outer. I originally just tried to push the inner down but found that you need to push down and slide up at the same. I got there in the end in spite of the ropes being of different lengths.
Thank you both for the info, All I need now is an audience. |
Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
The main problem with this effect, and possibly the reason it didn't become that popular, is that the handling by which the effects comes about seems to offer an obvious route to an obvious method which unfortunately is the very method being employed.
You may have to work on finding a novel handling to overcome this issue otherwise you may well end up with a sort of non-effect effect! If you can crack that though you'll have a trick no one else seems to be doing.
Neal Austin
"The golden rule is that there are no golden rules." G.B. Shaw |
Don-G Regular user Cheshire England 166 Posts |
I take your point there Sealegs, the method of removing the rope is not how you would normally take one away from a group. On another page a guy said that he put the ropes over his shoulder with the count and then removed one. I will have to sit down and see What I can come up with.
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Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2596 Posts |
Don-G; I'm pretty sure that the guy on another page you mention was me!
It's still a rather unnatural way of 'counting' or removing the ropes but at least all your actions can look the same for both a genuine count and one where the move is made. To 'throw' one rope away take it from the end hanging down and pull it down and in a continuing action throw the 'dirty' end over your shoulder. Then count out the ropes with the same action (but without unhorsing annoys the remaining ropes) throwing them over your other shoulder in the same way. It still looks slightly odd and helps disguise the method as much as possible but I was never convinced it was really fooling anyone other than the magician performing it!
Neal Austin
"The golden rule is that there are no golden rules." G.B. Shaw |
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