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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I'm ready to put the Nielson Vanishing Ketchup back in my act after a long absence, but I have racked my brain for a good patter theme here.
I CERTAINLY don't want to go with the amatuerish "I have a bottle of ketchup, I put the bottle of ketchup in the bag, now I crush the bag and the ketchup magically dissapears." (Any body asleep yet?) does any one have any ideas for a possible patter theme for this effect? I am truly stumped!
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wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts |
Well vanishing a bottle of catsup is hardly something one would do if they had "real magic powers" so I would suggest that it would be a stronger effect if it wasn't "explained" but a story.
Instead why not "find" the bottle in or behind something on the stage and make it go away because you don't want it around? Done without any words, but staged so the audience will understand that it's in the way would probably make a stronger impression than if you make a big deal about it. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Creating a context is a bit tough.
Might be interesting to suggest you carry the stuff with you, and take out your wallet. Then appear to remove the bottle from your wallet. Or the reverse.
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jkvand Special user Johnstown, PA 658 Posts |
Martin Lewis does a decent routine with a vanishing coke bottle and a can of pringles, tying in the idea of a snack which makes sense. I've used this with a ketchup bottle instead of the coke bottle in order to add more comedy to the effect. Coke and Pringles go great together, however, who in the world puts ketchup on Pringles? It makes it funny, because no one probably puts ketchup on Pringles, but we all know someone who likes ketchup on everything, and you can do some comedy byplay with the audience on strange eating habits, or funny food stories, and then go into the routine and amaze them with the magic.
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The Great Smartini Inner circle 2280 Posts |
How about..."well what's this doing here?" (searching for bag for vanish "Now this is going to put us behind schedule and (thinking out loud here)we might miss out on birthday cake...yes, it definitely looks like the cake is out...wait I've got an idea say the magic word "catch up" and just like that the problem is solved and we've caught up (vanish)...thoughts?
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
I saw an act at the fair that does five minutes with the thing, after he put it in the bag he did endless by play with the bag, sort of a sucker die box routine eventually just crushing the bag and dropping it in the 'get-away'...way too much chatty patter though...this could be a nice SILENT routine where with 'eye-brow' acting one could be perplexed as to where the bottle went that you just put in the bag...turn it upside down (you obviously are holding the bottom of the bottle)...pinch the left side and it's gone...turn the bag and pinch the right side etc etc...then just shrug shoulders...crush the bag and toss it.
It's a nice spot to eliminate patter. Doug
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Dario Veteran user 332 Posts |
I have a sketch in my one man show where I say I'm going to separate the ingredients of the ketchup (an idea that comes with the instructions I beleive)
The funny part comes with the item I use for separate the ingredients and the stupid thinks I do with it. DarÃo |
MaGiShN46 Loyal user 244 Posts |
Yes, I have a great suggestion. PM me for it.
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
I just wrote this into my routine...after the Knife Thru Arm...I tell the 'upset spec' that not to worry...it was only ketchup...and to make her feel better...
"(wiping off blood) OH...it was only ketchup...not to worry. (hold up ketchup bottle) Just for you, there will be no more fake blood...ok...see...(put bottle in bag) it's all gone! no really, it's gone! I mean really gone...(crush bag) Any blood from now on will be real I promise." Doug
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Burnt New user England 66 Posts |
I think Xmosis is onto a real winner there! Or subtly if its street is quite good but I really like that one a lot Xmosis. Good one.
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Doug Higley 1942 - 2022 7152 Posts |
"I exist for but to serve....
bring me your tired tricks...your poor props your weakened patter and worn out routines...my twisted mind unencumbered by reality will refreshen and stimulate their usage." I exist for but to serve...with Ketchup. Douglasius Higleyatus 34 BC doink Doug
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mshanker New user Frankfort, KY 84 Posts |
A small correction for jkvand: "Martin Lewis does a decent routine with a vanishing coke bottle and a can of pringles"
Actually Mr. Lewis uses a ketchup bottle and Pringles. He does it very well with his droll sense of humor. Manoj
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magicsteve99 New user 53 Posts |
I call my routine "kethcup and fries". The bag of fries is empty but I use the smap move to catch the fries as they cook. After this byplay I talk about ketchup on the fries or, better yet, in the fries. This is the motivation for putting the bottle into the bag. Works for me.
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Johnnie Blaze Loyal user 204 Posts |
I have used the NN ketchup bottle for years I do 8 minutes with it to open and trust me it kills. I suck my audience in with it, and after I am through I have there undivided attention. I used to tour with a large illusion show and more often then not people would always comment on the bottle trick. It is all in the way it is presented.
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
I remember commenting on that very trick... I'm partial to dots, myself.
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Euangelion Special user 688 Posts |
Rather than vanishing the bottle why not do something like putting it into a bag and saying you will now attempt to remove the essense of of kethcup from the bottle. Look in the bag and say yes, the essense has now been withdrawn. Play it up as a gag to hoots and boos you can even restore the essense and show the bottle again. Say I suppose to want me to show you. Repeat process. Reach in and withdraw a large tomato, giggles all around. I suppose now you want me to show you the bottle. Pull out an empty bottle. More giggles all around. I suppose some of you want me to show you the other bottle. Well, sorry there is no other bottle. Roll up the bag and toss it into whereever you toss such things.
That would make a very nice MC piece.
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
After accumulating tons of tricks in magic not knowing what I would use them for I find that this: I put together shows now. I decide what the show will relate to. I find a message for the show and I decide what tricks will best relate that message.
For example I found a cool thing for the Pro's nightmare. I, like every magician, have had access to the PN for years. In my case I have never used it for lack of a reason or routine. The other day I was reading this book and in the back of the book was a section on parables. There was one that was called: The Three Trees. Pros's Nightmare immediately came to mind. Perfect! That's how I incorporate tricks into my act now. It's a lot simpler this way I think. I too have vanishing ketchup and coke. I've always just used coke as a quicky. I just pick up the bag and say, "How bout this? I'll make it vanish." and I perform the standard stuff with the bag upside down holding the coke etc. But that's about it with the coke. John |
Magic Enhancer Inner circle Robert Haas 1805 Posts |
Check out Rich Marotta's Video Tapes. He has "His BEst Trick" which uses a ketchup bottle. It's awesome or comedy magic.
Personally, I have what I believe to be great patter. I take out a bag, and inside is what my wife packed me for lunch (this is what I say to the audience). I say "MMM....chicken sandwhich. " I fold up a rubber chicken and place it between two pieces of bread, then pull it out and the schicken falls out, etc. Can buy many funny props like that. Anyway, she packs me a bottle of ketchup too. I say "How many times do I have to tell her I don't like ketchup" and vanish. Just a thought. Don't be copying me ow Lol. Just kidding. Haas
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