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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
When I was a kid we all knew that Russia's PRAVDA newspaper was a tool of the government .. Could that have happened here too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Another very interesting CIA program was MK-ULTRA. A world famous magician was part of that horror. Take a look at the April 2001 issue of Genii...
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1336 Posts |
Is the Café going to have to create a new sub-forum..."Not Very Magical, Still...The Conspiracy Group"
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Wow! Slim, I never heard of that! Quite a piece of history there! Thanks!
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reese Inner circle of Hell 1332 Posts |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
+1
So whatever happened with Jade Helm, Slim. Have we taken over Texas yet and declared martial law? How many dissidents are being held prisoner in the Texas WalMart stores? |
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
The delusion would be to believe MK_ULTRA and Mockingbird never happened.
They are both are well documented by Congressional committees. You can take a look at the 1975 Congressional Committee hearings on the CIA. You can also see some of the materials brought to light through the Freedom of Information Act by Michael Edwards in the aforementioned April 2001 Genii as well as the September 2003 Genii. You can also take a look at the book The MagiCIAn by Ben Robinson who lectured on the subject to CIA agents just a few years ago. If you want to know more about Operation MK-ULTRA and how the CIA doped innocent unsuspecting Americans with LSD do a search on Dr. Sidney Gottleib, the head of the CIA's program, and Frank Olsen, a CIA agent who was deliberately administered LSD without his knowledge and ended up flying through a 10th-story plate glass window of New York's Statler Hilton Hotel.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
To be fair, landmark, Olsen went out of the window NINE DAYS after he was given the LSD. The official finding of the NYPD was suicide, although a later autopsy suggested that Olsen was struck in the head with a blunt instrument before being thrown from the window. It isn't likely that LSD caused him to jump as your post seems to suggest. In fact, most allegations of deaths caused by jumping from windows, etc., after taking LSD, have been debunked as urban myths.
One of the more notable cases was the death of Diane Linkletter, daughter of TV celebrity Art Linkletter. After she committed suicide by jumping from a window, her father alleged in the press that she had been given LSD which led her to believe she could fly. That was the source of many similar stories that followed. Unfortunately, Linkletter was wrong and the story has been shown to be false. As it turns out, his daughter was not taking any drugs at the time of her death. For an extensive discussion of this and the alleged "link" between LSD and suicide, see: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/drugs/linkletter.asp It should also be noted that MK-ULTRA was a product of the Cold War and was designed as s countermeasure to alleged Soviet efforts to create a "Manchurian Candidate." The "Red Scare" was very real at the time and it was a fact that many Soviet undercover operatives were acting within the United State. The use of psychotropic drugs was explored as a means of exposing and arresting said agents. Its effectiveness was highly questionable, but there's no question that the intent of MK-ULTRA was NOT to simply spy on American citizens as part of a government takeover by sinister forces secretly ruling the government. As in all historic events, context is essential in reviewing and studying them. All of this, though, raises a very important question. I'd be interesting in knowing whether or not you feel that ANY domestic surveillance should be permitted as a means of protecting national security. And, if yes, to what extent? |
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
As Michael Edwards makes clear in his Genii article the NYPD didn't have a chance to follow up on the fall. A CIA Security team arrived at the site very quickly and took over operations from the NYPD.
The only other person in the hotel room at the time was another CIA agent whose name was Lashbrook, IIRC. LSD was purposely spiked into a punch at a gathering that Olsen had attended the week before. The party-goers had no knowledge of what was happening. Over the next few days, Olsen's family saw him become more and more agitated and Olsen told his family that he wanted to leave the CIA as he was very disturbed about the CIA programs. Before then, as part of the program, brothels were set up and the prostitutes were instructed to give LSD so that the agency could find out LSD's effects on unsuspecting subjects. The girls were also given the LSD unknowingly. The context as Bob says was the Red Scare--but indeed there was extensive domestic surveillance of Americans in that period. If you were suspected of being a Communist you could expect to have your mail opened and phone tapped. Of course the technology was not as advanced as today, and today's massive illegal warrantless worldwide surveillance would have only been a magnificent unattainable dream for J. Edgar Hoover back then. As to whether I think domestic surveillance is ever necessary, The Constitution provides for the extraordinary circumstances when domestic surveillance of particular people is required. In all cases, however, a search warrant is required with a bill of particulars against a particular person for a particular reason. Not a FISA court stamp, but a search warrant. If I wanted to live under the threat of domestic surveillance for my opinions or possible future actions, I would move to Russia. But again, this is a side conversation. The point is this: Operations Mockingbird and MK-ULTRA were real and there's plenty of well-established evidence about them. The elite of the US have never hesitated to use any means necessary in pursuit of their goals. For some, this causes a cognitive dissonance, and that's probably a good thing. That means that there's a part of the reality which is so distasteful and ugly to look at, that it seems better to turn away and deny it or discount it. It means that at least there's still some moral compass left. Anyway, I recommend the Genii article and the Ben Robinson book, The MagiCIAn, I mentioned in the other thread, as absolutely fascinating overlaps with our magical interests in this little part of the world.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
In the 70's they caught a bunch of CIA employees working in all the major TV news networks ... The congress (Church) tried to stop them. Looks like they failed.
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