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SmileAndNod Veteran user 316 Posts |
The major advantage is the ease of getting into the Palm. You don't have to change the angle of the coin or doing any weird gestures like extending the fingers (as in fp) or distorting the hand (as in cp). It's a good transitional palm as in the original demache change. I'm personally not a fan of leaving a coin there for too long as it doesn't seem natural, but that's just me.
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simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1415 Posts |
What are the angle issues? I perform standing up with spectators all around often in mix and mingle situations so angles are important for me
Magically,
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts |
There are some angle issues but I teach to avoid any bad angels
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9987 Posts |
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On Nov 13, 2015, simplymagicweb wrote: easy and multiple ways of getting into the position and simple transition to other palm positions when desire. In many situations this means less finger movements or "tells" but that may be only important to magicians Also, clean release for toss actions such as a "pluck" production at the fingertips. the key is not always "better than" but "in combination with" or "an alternative to" So, I guess the real answer is "confidence" from control and flexibility. Vinny attempts to use it in every routine. I prefer to use mixed methods. Providing a choice is one reason for the books. Every reader gets to pick out what works and ignore the rest.
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Craig Ousterling Special user 585 Posts |
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On Nov 13, 2015, SmileAndNod wrote: The action you describe reminds me of Tom Stone's teaching's. I would totally WANT to do it that way had the camera caught my facial expressions. My thinking has turned toward how to do this in a spectators hands rather than use cards on a table. I feel like I need to revert to Roth, Gallo, or some 'other' seasoned magician that has put the work and time into solving the problem decades ago. |
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SmileAndNod Veteran user 316 Posts |
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On Nov 15, 2015, Craig Ousterling wrote: The important thing is to decide which moments you want the spectator to see, and which points you want them to not see. You need to place all your focus on the moments you want them to remember, while minimizing focus on every other part, including the shuttle pass. The issue is the moves are what we as magicians think are the most important, so of course we assign a lot of importance to those moves. You need to consciously edit them out. I used to do a copper silver transpo in the spectators hands using a modified Roth Palm Change (I couldn't do it with silver dollars, so I had to do a more roundabout way) and it probably got the best reactions of any trick I did before I started learning about theory, but I was always so afraid to do it because it ended dirty and I didn't know how to deal with that. I had been caught out a couple of times trying to "sneakily" put it into my pocket. I also had a spectator refuse to play along with the patter at all, just generally being difficult, and the second I put the coin in his hand and told him to hold it tight he opened up his hand to look at the coin. I realize now that I was focusing too hard on the dirty hand (oh look, that all tied together, I didn't mean it to. I was just rambling). |
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9987 Posts |
Good thoughts -- especially the distinction between "want them to see and "want them to remember."
Many factor can influence the memory besides visual input. An early mentor told me, "a succession of effects can create a desire to see magic so strong that the audience will create it out of nothing."
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