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prestidigitation New user 54 Posts	Posted: Dec 1, 2015 07:15 am 0 A cool effect called Stargate. Who originated it? Who might build it? Who performs it? Any books about the methods involved (?) http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzUzNTE5Nz......-1-1-9-0 ....and there's also this other version that has less appeal: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQwNjM2MT.......8-1-1.2
john wills Special user 939 Posts	Posted: Dec 1, 2015 09:18 am 1 This is a small piece of footage of Duo Absolon, performing their original, one of a kind, illusion. As far as I know they build this illusion themselves. You cannot this illusion in a book.
jeffl Regular user 109 Posts	Posted: Dec 1, 2015 02:30 pm 1 I'm not sure you're right John, these look like apples and oranges. The second link shows an effect which was indeed invented by the Hamners and named "Stargate" by them. The first one looks much more like a throwback to Howard Thurston's "Vivisection"... http://www.martinka.com/media/auction/400/12/012398.1.jpg ...although the method and/or performance may very well be unique to Duo Absolon - but the name sure isn't!
prestidigitation New user 54 Posts	Posted: Dec 1, 2015 02:46 pm 0 I don't know why illusions like this one aren't performed more. Not only does it's open center look cool and give striking effect....the trick is more of a head-scratcher than something like the overplayed Interlude trick.
jeffl Regular user 109 Posts	Posted: Dec 1, 2015 10:03 pm 1 I'm sorry, am I supposed to be offering an apology for not being aware of something that has never appeared in video or as a picture on the internet (since no link of evidence is being offered), that only "occurred" in Europe 36 years ago when I've never been there? I guess if those are the ground rules I'd better shut my big fat mouth and stop offering my "best effort understanding" to those asking. (And since someone is being coy I'm not even sure what my "transgression" is but I suppose it's so great I'm not even entitled to know THAT.) I'm sorry for whatever that is but I think a bit too much offense is being taken about this.
john wills Special user 939 Posts	Posted: Dec 2, 2015 08:09 am 0 Jeffl. I'am sorry that you're mis understand me. I'am NOT offending YOU. Sorry for you, but not everything is "stored" on internet. prestidigitation: I'am not Sherlock Holmes. I was in the audience during that performance in 1979 and it was beautiful to watch that clock-illusion of Many Thou
jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts	Posted: Dec 5, 2015 08:52 pm 0 Quote: On Dec 1, 2015, jeffl wrote: I'm not sure you're right John, these look like apples and oranges. The second link shows an effect which was indeed invented by the Hamners and named "Stargate" by them. The first one looks much more like a throwback to Howard Thurston's "Vivisection"... http://www.martinka.com/media/auction/400/12/012398.1.jpg ...although the method and/or performance may very well be unique to Duo Absolon - but the name sure isn't! Vivisection was invented by Ed Massey. One of the only illusions he invented. Jay Leslie www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com
jeffl Regular user 109 Posts	Posted: Dec 6, 2015 02:55 am 0 Thank you for clearing THAT up. (I was pretty sure Jarrett was the WRONG answer but that wasn't enough to steer me to the right one.)
jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts	Posted: Dec 6, 2015 08:27 am 1 I have ED Masseys original notebook and it's in there. I could probably email you the page but of you just look at the photo, it's pretty easy to figure out. The best aspect, on the build is the trim that "diminishes size because of layers" •That's a paraphrase of the name of a principle in one of Sharps books. (It's 1am and I'm not awake) With the correct "treatment" the inner and outer rings can appear much thinner then they are. Jay Leslie www.TheHouseOfEnchantment.com
illusionman2 Special user 991 Posts	Posted: Dec 8, 2015 03:00 pm 0 Quote: On Dec 1, 2015, prestidigitation wrote: A cool effect called Stargate. Who originated it? Who might build it? Who performs it? Any books about the methods involved (?) http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzUzNTE5Nz......-1-1-9-0 ....and there's also this other version that has less appeal: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQwNjM2MT.......8-1-1.2 The Mask Magician Exposed the top illusion on TV , he called it RING OF TERROR also Sigfried and Roy had one in there show also
illusionman2 Special user 991 Posts	Posted: Dec 8, 2015 03:08 pm 1 Quote: On Dec 8, 2015, illusionman2 wrote: Quote: On Dec 1, 2015, prestidigitation wrote: A cool effect called Stargate. Who originated it? Who might build it? Who performs it? Any books about the methods involved (?) http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzUzNTE5Nz......-1-1-9-0 ....and there's also this other version that has less appeal: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQwNjM2MT.......8-1-1.2 The Mask Magician Exposed the top illusion on TV , he called it RING OF TERROR also Sigfried and Roy had one in there show . This Illusion is one of the few illusion that got a paten
prestidigitation New user 54 Posts	Posted: Dec 11, 2015 07:18 pm 0 Does it use similar method to Copperfield's Shadow Vision?
prestidigitation New user 54 Posts	Posted: Dec 11, 2015 07:20 pm 0 Quote: On Dec 8, 2015, illusionman2 wrote: Quote: On Dec 8, 2015, illusionman2 wrote: Quote: On Dec 1, 2015, prestidigitation wrote: A cool effect called Stargate. Who originated it? Who might build it? Who performs it? Any books about the methods involved (?) http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzUzNTE5Nz......-1-1-9-0 ....and there's also this other version that has less appeal: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQwNjM2MT.......8-1-1.2 The Mask Magician Exposed the top illusion on TV , he called it RING OF TERROR also Sigfried and Roy had one in there show . This Illusion is one of the few illusion that got a paten Agh. Masked Magician. Anyways, I found a newer version of the effect on Penguin Magic. I think I'll go for it, it's still a remarkable looking illusion.
illusionman2 Special user 991 Posts	Posted: Dec 14, 2015 12:32 pm 1 This is Mark Parker new version (new method) http://www.masterofillusions.ca/master_o......ned.html I also looked up the patent given to Howard Thurston in 1936 patent 2,034,407 http://www.bkmag.com/2015/06/12/how-sawi......c-trick/
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