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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Thoes that like the han pien chein I call the the Crotch pien Chien
it has a nice open feel and of course I'm using the thumb crotch palm https://youtu.be/eHgvxBBOtgM vinny has any one seen this in print ????????? |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
New one for me too, Vinny
I feel there should be a stronger reason for showing the coins a second time -- and reason for the pairing of the coins. Also, if observers have no reason to anticipate a transportation the CPC will be less noticable. Most folks don't know you can keep or change the face of the coin while placing it/them in Thumb Crotch. (how you pick up the coins) How about a heads/tails affinity? Start with two of them heads and the other tails. Slide the tails to your left and grab in fist. Slide the others to the right and grab. Now confirm the two on left are tails by showing the stack. Pick up with Thumb Crotch Palm that will reverse. Execute the CPC to show the stack on the right as heads -- with inference supporting they are the orginal heads coins in the right hand. Naturally the concealed pair or now inverted. Now say, "What would happen if I turn these coins over to tails to match those in my left hand?" Do so and cover. Then lift right hand to show all four coins as tails -- their affinity pulling them together under one hand. Open empty left hand saying, "A new meaning to loose change, I guess."
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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magojose| Regular user 195 Posts |
Very well done and novelty use for an old palm.
Makes me remenber Tamariz advice of search for a polivalenve of the techniques |
longtimelurker New user 65 Posts |
Why not use the same motion when showing the first two coins? The fact you wholly and completely change what you are doing the second time makes it incongruous and telegraphs something is up.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
It was a demonstration .... go ask Shegio Tekagi he used the same motion, I emulated him except I used the thumb crotch,,,, however he died in 1999....
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MagicT Inner circle New Orleans 1248 Posts |
Vinny,
The Thumb Crotch Palm work that you have did not in any way revolutionize anything in magic. No you will NOT be known as a great coin innovator of ANY generation. Also, just because you upload videos of yourself performing does not put you above those that don't put up videos. So if I upload videos of myself doing magic tricks will I be respected more for this? My guess is probably not. You get mad when someone criticizes your videos, then you challenge them to put up videos of their own. Why? So you can criticize them to make you feel better? It would still be a disservice to yourself because you are so stubborn that you no longer have a desire to learn. We ALL can learn from others, no matter how much experience one has over you, or how good or bad they may be at performing. You have to be open to this, and you, Vinny, are not. Its all good when someone praises your work. But when someone gives you constructive criticism, you take it as a negative and lash back instead of looking at it positively and possibly learning from it. You see Vinny, when someone gives you good advice/criticism, its to your benefit, but you see it as an attack. Lurker's first response to you was in no way attacking you, yet you got defensive. Hell, even your friend Funsway gave you some good advice/criticism in this thread. Why did you not get defensive with him? Why not take a step back and look at the big picture here. All Lurker was doing was trying to help you out. All you did was reject him by taking offense to it and start going off. Dude, chill out. People are only trying to help you. Trini
Trini Montes
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
The difference is that I don't address the personality at all -- just focus on the magic.
I have never met Vinny and probably never will. We are assoicates in magic with a common excitiment over creativity (don't confuse with originality) If you truly wish to help magicians on the forums then leave personal issues for PMs where they belong. Focus on magic and its component sleights, moves, subtleties and effects. Any post that starts off with a negative statement about someone else only destroys your own credibility. I tell Vinny the same thing. I personally do not beleive that either you or lurker (under any of your avitars) desire to help anyone. Prove me wrong! Post a dozen useful messages about magic with no mention of any person living or dead. Then I might believe.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Whatever works for you.
I like the concealment. I get stuck at the finger action to transfer the coins in. That's essentially what forced me to either break up the action into two transfers or settle at EG then pick something up from the table. Covering adjustments under abrupt actions just did not appeal when my goal was to keep normal eye contact and attention direction. ... Long term goal of keeping their eyes up during sleights.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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