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SigmaMagic New user 1 Post |
I really like the discussion in here about Steam 2.0.
Just bought it and hopefully in the next few months I'm able to share my thoughts about it. |
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Vraagaard Inner circle Copenhagen, Denmark 1479 Posts |
I really like this for many of the reasons already mentioned in this thread. I find absolutely no reasons for justifying any of the material. It's just a matter of treating this as mentalism and not magic, meaning give the performance a little time (time misdirection). I do the Fortune teller fish rutine and has a card with the Square Circle drawing on one page, trying to transmit a thought to them, just as a varm up sequence (also to justify that you cannot see through the card in anyway). From there I go into the fortune telling fish rutine, and ask them for simplicity to think of a 2 digit number (maximum a 3), but I don't want to make it too impossible. When they hand me the fish, the impression device goes to my pocket, and the by-play with the fish and them counting loud from 0 to 10 a couple of times, and everybody has forgotten everything about the procedure and the "device". The fish will make them laugh and everybody will loose track of what happened earlier. If you have been performing any mentalism rutines earlier this will go down easy. Most of the "justification" questions in this thread reminds me of the same questions I had when I moved from magic in to mentalism. I can tell you for sure, nobody will come close to the secret if you take your time and has a little bit of confidence. It's much easier than using a TT in magic.
Great effect, honest and straight forward. Highly recommended. |
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Hudson Lee New user 60 Posts |
I like the concept, but the product doesn't really line up with the work I do. I'll sell or trade mine to anyone interested in PM'ing me.
If there's another place I should put this, feel free to pull this down. |
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
I've narrowed this down to a few items, the pen, the envelope, a single billet and a generic 52 on 1 card. I slide the card backside down into the envelope and tell my spectator that a "real magician" wouldn't need a deck of cards, but could divine any chosen "thought of" card - and that my prediction is already in the envelope.
I bet you can see where this is going... |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2017, DavidKenney wrote: Love this Idea, thank you for sharing with us:)
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On Mar 19, 2017, DavidKenney wrote: I do essentially the same thing but instead of using cards I ask them to imagine they are holding any object in the world that they could hold in one hand easily. Inside the envelope is a photo that I pull out just enough that they can see part of the photo, and push it back inside. Then I do the routine as usual, with the justification for removing the envelope and showing them my prediction on the photo inside the envelope. The photo is just a gag (similar to the 52 on 1 card mentioned above) but it is a photo of me holding a cardboard packing box from Amazon. I say this is me holding the box your item came in. A ridiculous gag I agree but it gives me enough justification to do the work and then provide a moment of astonishment. It fits my style so no one has ever questioned it as being anything other than a stupid joke. When I first started doing this I used the 52 on 1 card as well but wanted to make the odds even higher and also take it out of the realm of seeming to be another card trick so I came up with this. It has worked great for me, YMMV. But with a little thought I'm sure it's possible to come up with a myriad of reasons to justify taking the envelope back. Another nice touch is to put a sticker on the back of the photo with your contact info and give it to them as a souvenir. |
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
Simple, envelope labeled prediction on it. The 52 on 1 gag card in the envelope. They cover their thought of card written down with the provided envelope as you explain you don't want to see any bleed trough of their card. Wait then take envelop back for gag reveal. Then use invisible deck for final reveal. This is just one way to use it. I also use it with a acaan with mem deck.
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Magic Life New user 84 Posts |
Its one of the darkest underground secret used for dublication, no funny move, straight to effect, it's really a real effect to be said.
Best.. Magic |
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453rob Regular user 114 Posts |
I love this effect and have done it for my friends and family. They are so stumped. Love the idea with the Amazon box or 52 on 1 card and invisible deck. Anyway, I am in the process of ordering business cards. I want to make sure that they work with Steam 2. Does anyone have any advice of what kind of cardstock I should get. I am in Canada so paper weight is expressed in lbs. Bro Gilbert does not mention in the explanation what kind of paper he uses for the cards. I imagine uncoated and matte would do it. JUst how thick so it doesn't bleed through. Any advise please.
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luckyram New user 26 Posts |
Great effect and kills every time - Some !@#$%^& however has posted the effect & it's secret for free on a media site. This is such a great method whose secret should be protected that I hope it can be pulled down on copyright infringement basis. Can anyone get word to the inventor or Paul Harris?? I have the website address but I don't want to post it here as it is exposure.
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Alex DLF Inner circle 1990 Posts |
Steam 2.0 – Ali Nouira
Product description : Peek methods have been around for decades, if not centuries ! I’ve seen a lot of them, I’m not a mentalist at all but I like to do mental magic. Steam was released some time ago, I already did a French Video review on it and here we are with the 2.0 version. As with most peeks, the idea is the same, you ask someone to draw or write something down on a piece of paper, they hide it or put it back and you’re able to know what they have been drawing. Steam relies on a very clever and devious method but is it worth your money ? Let’s find out ! Price and where to buy it : This is sold at $44.95 and you can find it in nearly every Murphy's magic « partner » shop ! What you get : The first version of Steam was released a long time ago and you got a ziplock bag with a printed sheet of paper inside, packaging was not the best. With Steam 2.0, they provide you with a very nice cardboard box, with shining gold writing on it, typical Paul Harris quality product. Inside, you will find a few things such as a marker which is ungimmicked but works very well for the “work”. You also get some envelopes, they are specially made for Steam 2.0 and you won’t be able to find them anywhere else, as well as a glue stick because some of those envelopes were not glued, maybe a production problem. You’re also provided with the special stock paper cut as a business card size so it can fits anywhere and people can write on it. Finally, you get 2 fortune telling fishes which are part of a routine taught in the download. In the download, which is very nicely edited (as with every Paul Harris product), you’ll find a lot of history, information about the trick, as well as some routines and ways of doing the peek. Overall, you get a lot for your bucks, I’m not disappointed at all ! Teaser : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfLGZpgtoxU The pros and the cons : Here is the core of my review, let's begin with the cons, as I will usually be doing, I prefer to keep the good things for the end. THE CONS : – You can use the envelope only 2 times before having to use a new one, so you will have to buy refills if you do this a lot ! Fortunately, those refills are quite cheap so it shouldn’t cost you a lot. – You have to put something down on the paper on which they wrote, it’s not a problem with the proper patter but still, it may feel weird for some people. THE PROS : – The packaging was lacking in the first version, this one is perfect, again, it’s not important for the trick but it’s nice to receive something this well made, it makes you feel you spent well your money. – I’ve seen quite a lot of peek techniques and this one is definitely the cleverest that I’ve seen, the principle in play is just magical in itself, you can’t even think of the beginning of the method. – The paper card that are provided are much more nicer than the previous ones (in the first edition, Ali gave you orange paper you had to cut down), they actually now look like real blank business cards ! – You never touch or come near the card they’ve been writing on, the method allows you to be nearly hands off when it comes to this card. – The gimmick is now made into envelopes which is the best idea that have been found for Steam ! It makes a lot more sense to me to take out the piece of paper from an envelope and put this envelope to cover the paper than randomly put a deck, a bill or anything else on top of it. – They provide you with everything you need, you can perform this as soon as you receive the package, which is very nice, you don’t have to go out and buy additional stuff. – They have been thinking about routines to do with it, the addition of the fortune telling fish is very clever since the fish comes in play not only in the routine but also in the method ! The video has been nicely filmed and edited, it adds a lot to the whole thing, seen live performances and clear explanations is a key point. Overall rating : If you like what you see on the video, you won’t be disappointed with it, it’s a very clever method and it works well, unfortunately, I have other peek techniques which I use and I won’t switch to Steam 2.0, 3/4 hearts. As for the difficulty level, except from spectator management and a good routine, you don’t need any “skill” to perform this, I would say 2/5 stars. Similar products : Peeks have been around for years, I use a wallet called “The Viper Wallet” which is my everyday card holder but you’re free to use the one which suits you the best. If you liked this review, make sure to check all my other ones on my website : http://lesavisdalexis.wixsite.com/reviews
Get yourself Stamper and MONU, the perfect walkaround packet tricks: https://youtu.be/rwtfeKFeLms & https://youtu.be/yz5yKlI-4w8
Make sure to check my English review Channel! http://www.youtube.com/c/alexisreviews |
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
I slide the card backside down into the envelope
A brilliant idea of why you take back the envelope...... I also like the money idea...... And of course if you you cover the cards with your own hands..... |
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 678 Posts |
Belatedly bought this over Xmas. Pretty much agree with everyone disappointed by the instruction video. The routines seem to really under-deliver on the promise of this great utility. The use of the envelope is just so unconvincing - particularly given how small and flimsy it feels - I can’t believe that’s the handling they lead with. Waq.
Does anyone if a Facebook group was ever set up for sharing ideas? I’ve looked but Steam isn’t the most search-friendly term... |
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thecromulent Veteran user Brooklyn, NY 388 Posts |
I like the handling with the fish. The envelope seems so incidental. I bought a package of the fish on Amazon for just a few bucks, and I give one away each time.
Evan |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Jan 12, 2021, dirtyfoucault wrote: It’ll be bottom drawer rubbish by now unfortunately. |
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 678 Posts |
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On Jan 13, 2021, pegasus wrote: Ha, not quite yet. Sure there's plenty of potential, I just need to work on getting more consistent impressions. The instructions aren't great though. Definitely prefer Psypher... |
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 678 Posts |
Hey guys. Does anyone what thickness of the Canson-style paper/card provided works best with Steam 2.0? I'm running low having been on an experimentation binge. I've tried Canson 224g/ms and 180 g/ms but the pen ink reads through both of these paper stocks. Rather than just buy every other stock known to man just thought I'd check whether someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance.
(Sorry if this has already been mentioned somewhere else but there are 25 pages in this thread and search wasn't throwing anything up). |
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ArtIn Inner circle 1693 Posts |
Such a great and valuable product!
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Vraagaard Inner circle Copenhagen, Denmark 1479 Posts |
Hi all
Let me share my experience: When I was using Steam 2.0 a couple of years back, I had absolutely no problem introducing the card and the envelope. I might think the prop was a bit flimsy compared to my ordinary coin envelopes and regular business cards. But I never had any spectator question the envelope. Actually, I hardly had anybody giving any notice to the envelope. Also, nobody ever questioned my apparent need for something to write on, thus asking for the envelope back. Also, the fortune-telling fish got some laughs, especially with the female audience, without taking anything away from the mindreading effect. These routines as described in the instruction enables you to do mind reading - the rest is up to you and your personal performance style. I believe we tend to overthink the props and methods involved. Yes, I would have preferred this to be doable with my regular business cards and regular coin envelope. There is almost always a quirky point in any method not using electronics because we need to get the peek. Meaning we need normally to get the card back the spectator has written on. With Steam 2.0 you do not have to get the card back, and that is the real beauty of this method. In the fortune-telling fish routine, the envelope doesn't even seem to be in play because you ask for the fish. In conclusion, after having tested the Steam 2.0 props in real life. I have to say that it does the job as described. For a drawing duplication of a simple child-like drawing, it is solid. But most often I use it for a "Name" or "Color" revelation, because I had incidents with drawings with to many details involved, and they are not easy to peek using this principle. I actually just ordered new supplies/re-fills and I plan to use Steam 2.0 alongside other envelope peeks and business card peeks in my arsenal. All the best Jan |
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