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Paul Edmondson New user 61 Posts |
With the risk of sounding like a noob. I have been performing for nearly 18 years but recently touched on mentalism and love it. Got steam 2.0 and a few other things and want to develop a little close up routine. My one got any recommendations of ebooks for me please?
I particularly want things as strong as steam but not involving c***** t**** etc. |
Alexxander Elite user Frankfurt, Germany 423 Posts |
Maybe tell us a little bit more about what kind of effects you want to do!
Also, check out Bob Cassidy's 39 Steps to mentalism, which covers a lot of classic books on mentalism. |
Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts |
No books.
Watch Richard Osterlind's Mind Mysteries
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts |
I'll tell you the most normal reply....13 steps to mentalism... Lol
Sleepy |
Mindpro Eternal Order 10586 Posts |
There really needs to be a mental magic section here.
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Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts |
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On Apr 23, 2016, Mindpro wrote: How about we do ''Stalin wasn't all that bad'' section while we at it? Geez, some people... #HalfKidding
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WDavis Inner circle 1276 Posts |
Paul,
The most common reason magicians fall in love with mentalism is: packs light plays big. While they see the impact, they don't realize their own shortcomings. Character and personality development. Magicians have a crutch they unconsciously use and want to carry into mentalism. That crutch is the prop, because mentalism is "in the mind" there should be no prop. That doesn't mean there are not tools to assist, but the prop by it's very nature draws attention to itself. This is counter productive to the "in the mind" performance because a prop is not "in the mind." So in short, focus on character and personality. One that is true for you with the limits you are comfortable with. Learn to tell stories, learn to engage people without doing something magical. Once you can engage people without the need for a prop, mentalism truly becomes. Walter |
innercirclewannabe Inner circle Ireland 1597 Posts |
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On Apr 23, 2016, WDavis wrote: Walter is on the money here.
Tá sé ach cleas má dhéanann tú sé cuma mhaith ar cheann.
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
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On Apr 23, 2016, Paul Edmondson wrote: Here's a good challenge: Spend a while doing your Steam routine but using a c***e t**r or p**k instead and see if the reactions are different; if they are worse with the other methods, have a think about why that could be - and adapt the routine accordingly. 'It's completely impossible I couldn't possibly know what you've written' is the crux of many Steam performances I've seen, but using a centre tear will force you to elaborate on the effect's impact by being creative. Just a thought, as a little routine with no props or special items would be cool. |
bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
I also agree that watching Mind Mysteries is a good way of getting into mentalism mode; it's one thing to read it, but seeing stuff performed is essential to grasp the mindset.
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Paul Edmondson New user 61 Posts |
My current style is comedial. I've been likened to Peter Kay with a deck of cards. I'm just really trying to expand my repertoire. Working most weekends of the year, I get a little tired of cards, coins etc and since learning a few mentalism effects I love it. I like the fact that all I need is a pen and paper but just need some routine I suppose. I don't know how mentalism will work with my current jokey style though? I'm not into serious magic
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Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts |
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On Apr 23, 2016, Paul Edmondson wrote: I'm not into serious anything and it works quite fine. As long as it's believable, you can be funny.
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jstreiff Special user 701 Posts |
You have about as much advice as can be given in thus part if the forum. I would advise you take this downstairs after you reach 50 posts.
John
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SolidSnake Special user 534 Posts |
Stick with steam it's a fantastic prop you don't need any that other stuff
There is no holy grail!
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Last Laugh Inner circle Grass Valley, California 3498 Posts |
I hope you're being sarcastic. Sticking with only one method for an effect is a terrible idea and guarantees that eventually spectators will become suspicious. You should learn a bunch of peeks, tears and switches. Even if you're doing the same effect, you should mix up the methods.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
As someone who is on a similar journey, I've stepped into mentalism from escapology, I would recommend Peter Turner's Penguin Lecture and/or his At the Table Lecture.
Peter has a lot of material for the close-up environment. His other products are on the more expensive side, especially for someone just starting out, but these two are priced very low. I got both as instant downloads from Penguin for less than $35.
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