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CardMaker Inner circle Ludwigsburg/GERMANY 1063 Posts |
The MCF is international, isn't it? It is - and that is what I love here!!
My posts are ALL germenglish, so what? In US there are people suffering from dyslexia, too. So what? Asking for secrets? Hmmm..... PMs? Don't make everything public. Use PM and the asking person is happy (or not) and no one will judge! Keep magic growing before it dies.
CardMaker/Bernd Maucksch
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GaMBiT_101 Regular user Adelaide 135 Posts |
Alekz,
Been to the library dude, most have a magic reference section, not the best but it's free. I don't know if there are any where you are but if there is check it out if you haven't already.
"Being able to do tricks, doesn't mean you're able to be Entertaining!"
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MacGyver Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1419 Posts |
Alekz:
Hey man the fact that you even showed up again and posted something, and start on the right path of magic means a whole lot. Most newbies asking for secrets that got flamed wouldn't come back, it's a good thing you did. You'll learn a lot at the Café if you are respectful and listen(or read as the case is) a lot. Get a copy of Bobo's and get to the learning!!!! You're magic will be a lot better when you have a good foundation, even if you are just performing for friends. There is a big difference between someone who does magic, and someone who does "tricks." Learning the basics and having respect for magic will help you from becoming someone with a bunch of "tricks." |
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P-body New user Madison, WI 8 Posts |
You can pick up Bobo for next to nothing. And for as cheap as it is, you will pick up TONS of technique that you can't buy anywhere else.
Ebay has one for less than $2 right now |
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alekz New user Munich, Germany 86 Posts |
OK, I'll check out the library today. I guess I'll land in the children's section holding a book which teaches you to vanish a handkerchief using only a trash bin.. Anyway, I'll look around. Maybe there really are some good books.
For Bobo's, I will look in my local magic shop (we do have only one small here ) Buying them on ebay.com would mean expensive shipping costs for overseas. Ah, the local magic club you recommended: We have one I know of, it's the MZvD. But you have to pass a test (practical and theoretical, as far as I know) to join it. I guess you have to have had (so much have's.. is that real english?) some performances, e.g. at partys or something, to be able to pass the test. And that's far away from my current experience level. So I will have to train a lot more to be able to join it. MacGyver: Thanks for understanding me |
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
You know, this brings up an interesting thought. Bobo's MCM should be made into an ebook and sold as a digital download. What's the point of making the "coin bible" available at an affordable price, if you live in an area where the shipping charges are 10 times the cost of the book itself?
Someone should look into that. By the way Alekz, here is a link to a site that offers some free material and reasonably priced ebooks and downloads: Also, look for Al Schneider's ebook, "Al Schneider on coins". It's available for $10 on line, although I don't have that web address... anyone know what it is? Mike |
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Eric Grossman Elite user St. Louis, MO 429 Posts |
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MrCyNic Loyal user England 238 Posts |
Actually, Chris Wasshuber already does sell the basic (unrevised) version of MCM as an ebook at his site ( http://www.lybrary.com ). There's an instant download option on it. I'd certainly like to see the expanded edition sold in digital form, just to be able to carry a copy wherever I go.
Cheers, Cy. |
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
Thanks Cy. I just bought that ebook, and loaded it onto my Palm Zire. Now I have a portable reference where ever I go. A pretty good deal for $8.50 I'd say.
Any one need the name of a good vanish... ? Mike |
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Anthony Correia New user 14 Posts |
Alekz-
I just checked at amazon.de in Germany, and Modern Coin Magic is available for EUR 8,99. I am not sure about shipping cost, but it could not be as bad as shipping from the US. Hope this helps- Anthony |
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jbohn Regular user Minneapoils, MN 102 Posts |
Alekz-
As the others have said, Bobo is relatively inexpensive, and an invaluable resource. I also am a firm believer in checking out you public library- I found Mark Wilson's Complete Course In Magic, Royal Road to Card Magic, and Bobo available for checkout, and a complete set of Tarbell in the reference area. It's too valuable a resource to pass up, especially for a magician on a budget, like me. Keep practicing! Jeremiah |
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
I've had several PMs with alexz. He seems like a real nice sincere but naive young person anxious to get into magic but not knowing where to start. He truly is in a rudderless oarless boat adrift on the vast seas of magic.
Following up on the suggestions of many on this board, he's going to get a copy of Bobo's and start on that. What really impressed me about him was his unsolicited specific request to me for the names of books dealing with PRESENTATION. A very wise and mature attitude for so inexperienced a magician. He said that as he gets more into magic, he'll begin to be able to begin to know "what's out there" regarding magic disciplines and magic books in the various disciplines but for now he intends to concentrate on Bobo's and RRTCM and any books on presentation that he can obtain. He's also going to go to the library and explore any magic books that might be available there. As he candidly pointed out, he is somewhat hampered at this early stage in his magic life in that the only magic club "around" is more a magic club for performers and he wouldn't qualify. Hopefully, if he hangs around a magic shop or is introduced to a more experienced magician, he might impress some locals enough that they take an interest in him, and maybe elect to mentor him during this interim period. And MacGyver is right, alexz showed some real gumption and maturity and is demonstrating a sincere desire to learn magic by coming back on the Café after being flamed so unmercifully by so many for asking questions that he, in his inexperience, did not know were inappropriate or "out of bounds" for a person at his stage in his "career". The ebook suggestions made by some of you are great and relatively inexpensive (with none or little postage costs). MrCyNic's suggestion regarding http://www.library.com was spot on. I will be recommending a number of "presentation" magic books to him which hopefully will be reasonably available to him. Any other constructive suggestions from you guys I know will be greatly appreciated by alexz. Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.
This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto. Eschew obfuscation. |
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jbohn Regular user Minneapoils, MN 102 Posts |
Another resource not really mentioned above is Dan's site, http://www.coinvanish.com . Check out the "Foundations" section for some basic material for a beginner in coins.
Jeremiah |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
All of this reminds me of a book I read years ago by Barry Longyear... Circus World.
It was a science fiction story based on a society of circus performers who landed on some faraway planet in a spaceship called "City of Baraboo" and developed a unique society. (you'll really have to read it) They bartered with tiny copper BB like tokens called Movills Part of their philosophy was "You get what you pay for" or put another way, "Anything worth anything is worth paying for" or the opposite, "If you get something for nothing, then it must be worth nothing" Everything, I mean EVERYTHING had a price and you bartered for it no matter how trivial. If something was given away for free, then it's assumed it had no value. In the story, a traveler unaware of this custom encountered another traveler on the road and offered some of his bread to the hungry traveler. When asked "How much do you want for it?" he replied "Nothing, take whatever you like" The hungry traveler kept on walking automatically assuming the bread was worthless and must be inedible otherwise why wouldn't he ask a fair price for it? Puzzled by his refusal, the next traveler did the opposite, taking it all leaving the host with nothing because they (the host) obviously didn't want it anymore or he would have asked a fair price. If someone stopped you on the street and asked directions, you would automatically direct him the other way, unless he paid you, then you would give him proper directions. Of course, the person asking would know this and when someone gave directions without asking for money, you would automatically assume his directions were false. The story goes on with many such bartering stories. The moral of this part of the story is as listed above: "Anything worth anything, is worth paying for" whether it's money, effort, sweat, helping others, as long as you give something in return.
No trees were killed in the making of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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