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Imirik New user 28 Posts |
Hi all, I had a question regarding Tamariz's Mnemonicosis effect. I was wondering what you guys do if the spectator over cuts their said card and it ends up in the pile that they have just picked up (e.g a few cards up from the bottom of the cut pile) Tamariz mentions (if I read it correctly) to just continue with their pile face up but I've always thought this was a bit weak. Have you guys had good reactions from a face up pile?
I have usually asked them to cut a second time into the pile they are holding instead and then work from there. Are there any other ideas out there? |
korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts |
I don't think it matters on what pile you continue after the initial cut
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SamChak Elite user 478 Posts |
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On Aug 20, 2016, Imirik wrote: If the spectator "over-cuts" the deck, I'll convert the routine to Darwin Ortiz's Test Your Luck for a freely named card. |
jpleddington Loyal user Lewisburg, PA 294 Posts |
Take the cards they've cut off, spread them on the table (best) or in your hands (if you don't have a table; and you could even do it in their hands), and now you can count/spell/whatever from the bottom of the cut-off pile while still keeping the cards facedown. This should be just as strong.
Alternatively, if it's in keeping with the situation, you can ask them to cut not quite so many cards....
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Imirik New user 28 Posts |
Some nice ideas, I like the spreading out the cards on the table or in the hands idea, definitely something to play with!
@SamChak I'm not sure that trick suits what I described. Thinking about it, it wouldn't work well if their card is in the cut off pile as I mentioned... Or maybe I'm not getting how you would switch into it |
sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
Another strategy for example is to have them name a number (as per Juan's guidelines in Mnemonica), but have them remove all the cards from the cut off portion except the amount named. The reasoning for doing so, ostensibly, is because you wouldn't want to keep the cards from the top, otherwise what is the point of cutting the deck to a random spot? This has worked well for me so long as you turn your focus heavily onto that packet and downplay the remaining cards.
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SamChak Elite user 478 Posts |
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On Sep 29, 2016, Imirik wrote: Well, I think that there is no significant difference between "over-cut" and "under-cut" in the overall impact of Juan Tamariz's Mnemonicosis. If you think that the named card situated in the cut packet is weaker, then regain control of the deck and perform a corrective estimation cut. Proceed with Darwin Ortiz's Test Your Luck, which I think is an equally powerful opener. The performer can retake the deck because the spectator does not expect herself to deal the cards (in Mnemonicosis) after being instructed to cut the deck. After retaking the deck, you can use your own clever patter as motivation for the spectator to find out whether her cut brings good luck or not. |
Ahlichs New user 76 Posts |
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On Sep 21, 2016, SamChak wrote: I love this. The handling would be a bit different because the selection is now towards the top of a face up pile, but it seems like you could figure out some choreography to have it make sense (or just cull the selection) |
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