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That1MagicGuy New user 61 Posts |
Great idea on not using cards to start your routine, Dana. This can really catch them off guard, inspire curiosity and give you more control over your performance.
MeetMagicMike is also right about begin with magic that is hard to bust, can set the frame to the audience that you directing the performance. |
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
Just last night I got busted at one of my restaurants. After an ambitious sequence one woman at the table scowled "Let me shuffle the deck and THEN see if you can do that".
I peeked the bottom card and forced it and then handed the deck to her to shuffle. As I took the deck back I realized I had forgotten the peeked card. No problem I thought I'll take my best guess and cull and top change the card if I am wrong. She grabbed the top card of the deck and loudly announced that I had failed before I could do anything. I lamely did a sloppy top change but no one was impressed. I was really having an off night. BUT Although this kind of thing hasn't happened to me in a loooong time I have learned from past mistakes. I remained very light hearted and basically said "ok, you're a tough one...you got me this time". I don't remember my exact words but that was the tone. I then chatted a bit and then changed the subject to puzzles. I let the group know that if they solved tonight's riddle they would win a choice of $100 OR a balloon animal...and it's MY choice. (This always gets a big laugh). I then told them the riddle and the woman's whole personality changed. She got out a paper and pen and said she loved riddles. I chatted a bit as they worked on the riddle then told them I would check back in a bit. That woman solved the riddle and sweetly asked me for a balloon. I made her a rose. That woman who I could have dismissed as a grouch turned out to be a softy who asked me if I did parties and got my business card. This story is a bit embarrassing for me because as a magician I was lacking. (I've done better in this same situation but apparently, I need to do a little remedial work). But that's ok because I think the bigger message is not to let ego cause you to blame an audience member for your weakness and don't let your discomfort show and make the whole group uncomfortable. Go back to the drawing board and think and work to handle that situation. |
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
Yeah, I think the advice of "not starting with a card trick" is wrong headed. I've just kind of stopped pushing back on it because it is so common here on the Café. In the "real world" I personally have no problem starting with card tricks. If I was restricted to only one prop It would be a deck of cards.
Of course, if your card tricks don't get strong reactions it's great advice. |
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danaruns Special user The City of Angels 808 Posts |
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On Nov 9, 2016, MeetMagicMike wrote: I don't disagree with you. I suggested that because the OP is a beginner, and cards are the most likely prop to be challenged. In the hands of a pro, cards had better be fine beginning, middle and end. But for someone just getting their feet wet, they are less likely to be challenged doing, say, a torn and restored whatever (bar napkin, dollar bill, piece of thread, etc.) than a card trick that probably isn't bulletproof yet.
"Dana Douglas is the greatest magician alive. Plus, I'm drunk." -- Foster Brooks
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Dollarbill Inner circle Colorado 1005 Posts |
To the original poster: Doc Eason has a great idea to someone who is out of line. He tells them "slow down! It's always better when we all get there at the same time!" <Paraphrasing a little>
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ThSecret Regular user 147 Posts |
This thread has a lot of golden nuggets of information! To OP I know exactly how you feel, I also have certain family members who have to compete to expose. If you want too force a card in the middle they want to take the card second from the bottom. Don't be discouraged by the hecklers!
@Dana , that was a book worthy post! (=
"A play does not take place on stage but in the minds of the spectators."
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CrossMagic New user 34 Posts |
I'm gonna come across this from a different angle, as it has been mentioned many times that you should have practiced it more.
I don't always think it's a bad thing if you get 'busted'. You may have performed the effect perfectly, some people are just more wise than others. It's how you handle the situation that will make all the difference. If someone says 'check it's the right card'. Look them dead in the eye and say 'Go on, check'. Sometimes this is enough for them to believe you, and you can carry on as normal. If they do look, the effect isn't ruined. You should just always have a back up plan. So if they happen to look, whilst they're looking and distracted, flip the card over and cut it into the centre of the deck face up. Then once they've seen the card in the hand has changed, spread through the deck and explain that the card that should have been in their hands has now appeared in the centre of the deck face up. There has been mentions of palming the card and reproducing it from your pocket. Perfect, or try wallet, or envelope. Be imaginative, but ALWAYS have a backup plan. I don't mean to sound rude, but if you said you wasn't carrying on because the guy has 'ruined' it, it just makes you look childish and unprofessional. But if you think quickly and turn the effect on its head to benefit you. You will come across as a brilliant Magician. These things come with experience. Don't feel down if someone caught you out. Work it to your advantage. I'll also pass on some great advice that was given to me. If you can't find a 'way out' of the situation, simply be honest and say something like 'Great work for noticing and thank you for letting me know, I'll make sure I work on that so no one notices in future'. Occasionally you just have to hold your hands up and admit someone caught you, but only if it's a last resort Regards, Cross |
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danaruns Special user The City of Angels 808 Posts |
Good advice, Cross. It's a great idea to always have an "out."
When I'm not too lazy (I'm often too lazy, these days), I carry a Brainwave deck for outs. If I were to get busted by someone turning over a card that wasn't the card I told them it was, I could whip out the Brainwave deck and show them that the card it was supposed to be has traveled and is the only face-up card in this second deck, and it's the only red card in a blue deck, or vice versa. Others use an invisible deck for this same out. I have a friend who has cards indexed in his pocket for such "outs." Jeff McBride showed me in passing (but it stuck with me) how he can move on to another trick and then come back to it, and lo and behold "discover" the card folded into a David Regal Clarity Box that had been sitting on the table the whole time, and that is super strong (but requires some secret moves). Just have something to use for an out, whatever it is. I note that the OP hasn't posted in this thread for almost a month. I guess he got what he needed from it and has moved on.
"Dana Douglas is the greatest magician alive. Plus, I'm drunk." -- Foster Brooks
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avasatu New user 97 Posts |
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On Oct 16, 2016, magicstudent8416 wrote: I am probably in the minority here, but depending on the company you keep and the type of people for whom you tend to perform, I would say the era of the double lift is coming to an end. More people than ever seem to be aware of it, and even more people than ever are able to decipher such a simple concept. I don't do any tricks with double lifts any more, despite having a few types of excellent doubles. That said, you can't possibly perform a good double after only 4 practices. |
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CrossMagic New user 34 Posts |
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On Nov 28, 2016, avasatu wrote: I'm genuinely surprised at this view. 80% of what I perform involves DL's and I'm never caught, or suspected. Maybe it's the country you're from? But from what I'm aware of, the UK has the odd people who know about DL's but that's it. To me it's no more than the amount of people who know about palming cards. It's never caused me an issue in the last 15 years though Each to their own I guess Regards, Cross |
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avasatu New user 97 Posts |
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On Nov 28, 2016, CrossMagic wrote: Hello! Certainly when I said the era is over, I meant for certain types of audiences. I tend to do tricks for people who are more "contrary" than not. People who want me to fail (or rather, whose primary motivation for watching is to uncover my method), and who occasionally poke and prod. Academic types, gamers, and such, or family members who have seen my shenanigans before. There is absolutely a correct audience for double lifting into oblivion, and I'd say perhaps even the average person is extremely susceptible to them. I actually never have been explicitly caught, but I have felt very close to it! |
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
I've always had success with "planning for failure" and therefore I always have a one liner ready to get a laugh, and then I move on! Don't let failure get you down. Just keep at it.
Douglas Lippert
Former I.B.M. Ring #8 Secretary |
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CrossMagic New user 34 Posts |
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On Nov 29, 2016, avasatu wrote: It's all about taking risks |
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