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Hi card guys,
I'm working on a brainwave routine with a normal deck, so everything is examinable at the end.
The back of the thought of card is of a different color.
Every book reference would be welcome.
Thanks for your help.
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Why? You are just sacrificing the strongest point of the brainwave deck to get rid of a mild weakness. How much is gained by letting them examine the cards? And how much is lost by having to do complicated sleights to achieve the effect. I've performed the invisible deck 50 times in a single night (every table just wanted to see it) and not once did anyone ask to examine the deck. Hell, it even had a different back design and color from the other cards I was using.

Remember, every miracle has its price.
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I recommend Barrie Richardson's, in his book Act II. No "complicated sleights." In fact, it's *** near sleightless.

There's a time and place for everything. If a miracle comes at the price of the audience being denied something that *you're* willing to give them, then who am I to slap you on the wrist? Enjoy.
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Ackerman has a nice one in Las Vegas Kardma if my memory serves me. Based on Elmsley's "Brainweave".
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Ackerman's routine is very practical. At the end, there's only one card reversed in the deck. Furthermore the spectator is asked to "think" of one of the cards he's looking at (it's limited to about 15 cards).

Mike Close inadvertently reinvented the Ackerman method. I don't remember where that's published, though?

There's a very good version where the card is thought of but it ends with 15 cards or so reversed in the deck. Big clean-up problem.

These routines are Invisible Deck items, not Brainwave where the card has a different color back.

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Hi smileandnod,
Why ? Just because I love pureness and hate gimmicks. I've conceived a method in which I'm duplicating the exact same strong points as the invisible deck (thanks for pointing that brainwave and invisible deck are two different routines) but with a normal deck. No force, and two sleights only, two hard one but very well concealed. I can't believe that no one before me has came up with this method. I'm pretty sure it is lost somewhere in the littérature.
I'm going to check the Ackerman version. Thanks Mike.
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And here in France, people know more and more about magic. The chances of showing this trick at a gig and someone saying he wants to see the cards because there is roughing fluid is far from low. I would say one in a few hundreds, so it will happen.
And the invisible deck is a trick a smart beginner (a few years of magic) can present well. So what is the differences with a high price pro who is doing the same thing ? I know seller guys who could present that trick even better than pros if I give them the trick. For me, in our internet contemporary world, knowing the secret and how to present it well is not sufficient anymore. Even if it is super pleasant for most of the spectators. Maybe it is just an ethic point of view easily wiped away by professional business magicians.
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Thanks a lot for the Richardson reference.
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You are right smile and nod, every miracle has its price but it shouldn't stop us to think.
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John Bannon said that the audience always wants to examine the cards; they may not really ask to for being polite, but they always want to.
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I strongly agree with Bannon. And the fact that they are polite and don't ask should not mask that fact and that they are not so fooled that we think. Ask people after seeeing magic what they think the méthods are, and you will be surprised by how smartly they can figure out things, missing all the details of course, but very often they have the big picture.
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One more thing, they want to examine the cards, even when they don't suspect gimmicked one, but just for touching the accessory which have done so wonderful things.
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On Dec 10, 2016, Mike Powers wrote:
Ackerman's routine is very practical. At the end, there's only one card reversed in the deck. Furthermore the spectator is asked to "think" of one of the cards he's looking at (it's limited to about 15 cards).

These routines are Invisible Deck items, not Brainwave where the card has a different color back.

Mike


Ahh, yes. Thanks for the clarification. Ackerman's "25 Year Old Brainwave" is the one I needed to reference - from Las Vegas Kardma. "Ackerman's Opener" is the one using Elmsley's Brainweave.
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Check out Tidal Wave by Ken Krenzel and Harry Lorayne in Apocalypse; it meets your criteria.
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Hi there.

I use Mike Vincents "Brainwave My Way". Its a brilliant handling, and overcomes the weaknesses of the original, both in method and construction.

I use his original handling rather than his current one (for reasons I won't go into on an open forum).

I know you specifically asked for books but this one is on his Classic Magic dvds,vol 1.


Jim
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I've not the Vincent DVD but I will check the Apocalypse, thank Vlad.
It is funny that some of us have still a secret approach to magic : only specialists would understand your points Jim ! We can find nearly anything online. I know someone who has collected 20 000 books and DVD on magic paying not a single dollar for all that. 99 % of the circulating datas on magic are piracy issued.
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