On Dec 25, 2016, Peter_turner wrote:

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On Dec 24, 2016, pilgrim wrote:
If you're able to estimate, just by dexterity and in a blink of an eye, that you're holding 21 cards in your hands, then this is a trick for you. Else... NOT. And don't hope for a certain didactical explanation... because he has that 'mesmerising manner and linguistic dexterity' in some kind of English dialect, that you will NOT understand any **** of what he's explaining!!! (I'm an IT-problem solver in a multinational with plants in 65 countries, and providing support and provide resolutions for them all --- so I know how to understand and explain stuff!!) It's not my first experience with this one. And BOTH times I felt ripped off!! And I'm NOT a beginner, and I feel attracted to bold methods, but this requires skills from a particular corner, skills from which I assume you obtain only by working HOURS with cards. And there's nothing wrong with that. If you can go along with this, why not. But don't spread this knowledge via commercial channels! It's ripping of money from peoples purses. And stick to that inner magic circle -network for distributing knowledge!!!

I don't mean to be offensive suggesting this but maybe you missed something? Learning how to shuffle a playing card to a position is roughly a five minute discussion out of an hour and a half... I added this as it is one method that can be used and doesn't mean it has to be.

You've missed the fact I share how to psychologically force Playing cards (with solid outs), mechanically force a card (while seeming completely havds off) - which can be done after 5 minutes practice - You don't even need to be able to shuffle a deck of cards. How to get someone to stop wherever you want without you ever touching the deck (which requires nothing more than fundamental card skills ala 'The royal road to card magic').How to deal with jazzing with a deck so that you do not need to touch it. I agree some of the linguistics require practice, I think I mention the second deal (as a mechanical option) to a hands of psychological variation of getting someone to move one card. If you struggle with the second deal use a double lift. What I offer is a series of tools, linguistics with mechanical outs all ensuring that the outcome gives you an effect that looks as clean as the trailer, I don't understand where the 21 card comment comes from.

The email that went out and ad copy openly state that this is fairly advance thinking (I personally disagree) - With a small amount of time tinkering anyone can do this. Sorry it's not a self working deck or electronic gimmick that does the work, I try to rely on my own instincts and practiced technique to make this work. I was inspired by the greats and invested as much time as it took to make me feel I had something that was workable every time - WHICH IT IS.

Someone above mentioned luck, there is nothing lucky about the trailer. It breaks down to nothing more than a psychological force of the seven of hearts (which is one of the simplist forces) a guess at the number I thought she was thinking of, note I asked "be honest did you go for a number in the twenties?" Had she of said "no" I'd have simply said "good because it's not there" - Anyone who has read 'Psychological Subtleties' will know that a number in the twenties is most frequently chosen so I fished for it and then I knew it was likely going to be 23 or 27 (just from performing this for as long as I have) and it hit (which it does frequently which I discuss in depth). If I had of been a couple out I'd have simply said "Even just guessing, I can get close to what I feel you will go for so to ensure this is random deal them facedown so that we end up at a number even you didn't know you'd be at".

For anyone wondering why I didn't place it at 23 you'll understand when you watch the download - I am happy this thread has come to fruition as I've just come across another method to add to my notebooks that is a result of thinking about what I just said

The download teaches you how to be prepared for any outcome that is going to occur.

Once she had picked the Seven of hearts for me I was 99% sure that she would find it - I could have mechanically forced it from another deck if I wasn't comfortable, but I was and am comfortable I can pretty much do this with any card.

Again this is something else covered on the download.

I had never anticipated releasing any of my card work, after the lecture, penguin loved the card section I briefly covered and they approached me to work on this project,

The performances you see on the download are the only performances that were shot, they were shot on the last day of me being there with 20 mins to spare - as we had been so busy with other things. We went to the university and the people you see in the download are the only people that were available to perform on.

The performance on the trailer was ok at best, not even the best case scenario (I was out by one and had to casually get her to readjust) - Which is taught on the download) and my scripting was not as tight as I would have liked, I was tired and jet lagged. Most of the time I get the particpant to hit bang on the number, if that would have happened the trailer would have been infinitely better - But instead of fighting with penguin for more time and going for that holy grail looking trailer, we aired an honest trailer. It's hard because you can't please everyone, I wish I could as I would.

Penguin gave the uncut performance start to finish - I don't know what more could have been offered.

Cards and mentalism are not for everyone, this type of practice gives you a look into how I can do this stuff with cards (something that can be followed) I can apply this same thinking to pages in a book, pin codes, object selection or psychological work.

I feel (and would be honest if not) that there is a lot in here to learn, I enjoyed filming it.

Anyway,

Hope eveyone has an amazing holiday xx

On Dec 26, 2016, dannydaniels wrote:
Thanks, Peter, for your response. It did me good and answered a lot of questions for me. The only "problem" I may have is that I live in Germany, and am wondering how this would go over when having to speak German. I have had to rearrange some of my English dialog and re-phrase things in order for the German public to comprehend what I want to say. For example, in English, it is simple to say "By a round of applause, how many of you have heard of me before?" However in German (and I literally translate), "If you have heard of me before, please applaud!" - what I'm getting at is that perhaps there is some fine wording in English that may be left out when speaking German?

With kind regards,

Danny

On Dec 24, 2016, Mobius wrote:
I find the fact that there may be some card skills required oddly reassuring. I don't mind being bold but I struggle a bit with effects that are completely dependent on psychological forces and scripting. This is something I am working on but I am no Peter Turner. He has a mesmerizing manner and linguistic dexterity that is an effect in itself. Having seen the trailer and the impact of the effect I am kinda glad that there may be a bit of trickery involved. Makes it more accessible. That's why I love Isabella's Star so much. A pure moment from seemingly nowhere.