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Race Blakhart Special user Selma,CA 623 Posts 
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Without going into detail, I am disabled, and lately I have been having more and more trouble with my hands when it comes to card sleights(not that I was ever that great to begin with).
But, one thing I'd really like to find, is if there are any alternatives to the Elmsley Count. I mean, I have no doubt that there are at least a FEW clever ideas out there, but on my budget I can't really afford to search anywhere else at the moment. hahaha |
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Claudio Inner circle Europe 1945 Posts
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Do you have a specific effect in mind?
There exist various handling of the EC and in some scenari possible substitutes, but I doubt you could find a specific substitute that will work in every situation. |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10959 Posts
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This is a count you may like . it is my Rollover count https://youtu.be/xmkwq1OXs5w
i use this in place of a Elmsley ...... an and it excellent when working on a table vinny |
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Race Blakhart Special user Selma,CA 623 Posts
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On May 2, 2017, vinsmagic wrote: I had to watch this a couple times just appreciating the beauty of it. Vinny, you are the man. I always enjoy your videos and your work. Just by watching your explanation, I think I could get a better feel of that work over the workings of the Elmsley Count. Thank you so much for sharing! |
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Race Blakhart Special user Selma,CA 623 Posts
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On May 2, 2017, Claudio wrote: Well, the effect that originally got me wondering about this was the Wild Card packet trick. I just posted about it the other day, because I had the cards but no printout with them. Once I realized what they were for, I realized my hands are having trouble with the E.C. due to my medical situation. I'm just hoping to find something that calls for less, dexterity wise. (I know the E.C isn't exactly advanced, but I'm fumbling it lately). |
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Ben Daggers Loyal user Osaka 238 Posts
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Whilst not exactly natural-looking, the Kiss Count from Boris Wild is an alternative to the Elmsley which can work well in certain situations
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Watson New user North Carolina 68 Posts
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Mr. Marini, I will practice and use the Rollover count. Thank you very much for sharing.
The Celtic Conjurer - Insperata Floruit!
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Station10 Regular user Indiana 198 Posts
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Vinny, thank you for sharing your roll-over count. Very well done.
John Gilmore
www.blindeyemagi.com "I am a great admirer of mystery and magic. Look at this life - all mystery and magic." ~ Harry Houdini "To Strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield!" ~ Alfred Tennyson |
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1777 Posts
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Wow Vinny, that’s beautiful! I will be practicing and using that.
Thank you for sharing this great move. And many thanks for your incredible generosity over the years. |
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fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3080 Posts
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I like the Rollover Count, too. It's fun to practice.
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Ferry Gerats Regular user the Netherlands 190 Posts
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Vinny thanks very much for the rollover count!
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davidpaul$ Inner circle Georgetown, South Carolina 3094 Posts
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On May 2, 2017, arthur stead wrote: I whole heartily agree Vinny. Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!
Guilt will betray you before technique betrays you!
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts
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The Vesser Concept will give you the same results as an E.C.
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts
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Rollover Count is excellent! Thanks, Vinny!
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ChrisPayne-001.jpg "View Profile") Loyal user UK 241 Posts
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That's wonderful Vinny
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Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts
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Very nice, Vinny! In addition to being used as a complete substitute for the EC, as Race is looking to do, it can also be used as a change-of-pace in any existing routine that has a lot of EC counts. And since the hidden card remains in the same position, it can be used as a fill-in for any "underground Elmsley" count where the last card is put back on the bottom.
Steven Keyl - The Human Whisperer!
B2B Magazine Test! Best impromptu progressive Ace Assembly ever! "If you ever find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause, and reflect." --Mark Twain |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10959 Posts
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Thank you guys for all the positive feed back
just a note this can also be done using five cards to show four cards vinny |
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Race Blakhart Special user Selma,CA 623 Posts
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I haven't had a chance to sit down and practice the work yet as I've been very sick. But Vinny, I've been watching some of your other videos, and you're just great. You've helped me with a few other things over the years, but I could watch your videos all day. You're very talented but there's also a great energy behind your effects.
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts
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Beautiful work my good friend!! I perform Richard Vollmer's Poor Man's Monte from Apocalypse and it uses a lot of Elmsleys and your count seems like it would be more appropriate to a monte routine.
Thank you again for sharing your work!!!! |
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jljones83 New user LA, CA 90 Posts
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Wow! Vinny, the rollover count is awesome! It's great that it cycles back into elmsley position. I do a 'marked cards' routine using a modified hammond count with an elmsley, but this is so much better! Thanks!
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