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MagicalArtist Veteran user Hobart, Indiana 378 Posts |
In a book on magic promotion I read:
"After you have landed the job and the performance is given, what then? Do not rush away--mingle with the people. You will find in every audience that there are a few people who will speak to you after your act..." Hmm, that's funny, but I find this does not happen. Maybe I "rush away" too fast. Or maybe I seem unapproachable. Maybe I am supposed to walk into the crowd and "mingle." The problem is, whenever I do this, it always seems strained and forced. But if I don't, nobody approaches ME. Oh well. |
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emeline Regular user 135 Posts |
I think sometimes it's good to have some courses about communication, so I advice you to practice with books or what you want, communication to be less shy than before ! In my opinion magic is 25 % of communication, 25 % of manipulation and 50 % of knowledge ! good luck !
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capitalprophets New user 6 Posts |
Hey all , I am soooooooooo shy that I even failed my oral exams at school , even though I am good at cards but when I perform for people I just forget everything I start doing everything the wrong way I get all red, my hands start shaking, its not just magic I am so shy person , but I never overcom this I always think that I S**K and I cannot be magician , I am so shy person that I cant even look a person walking by, but in all case my uncle always says to me " start with kids around near house, then perform for people or friends who come at your house,then start doing at school , this way you will overcome ur shyness and you will get to somewhere" I follow his pattern but now when I perform magic I always forget routines , waht to do next, I cant do even a double lift, anything sometimes I think I should stop doing magic.
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
I'm not sure this is of any help but...
I recently saw a TV show where a shy, woman librarian(?)wanted to become a Coyote girl at a Coyote bar. She had to overcome her shyness. One thing she had to do was go out in the streets and compete with a passerby in a yelling contest. Other passerbys were judges as to who yelled the loudest. Another task. The setting was New Orleans. She had a bunch of beads and had to get a passerby to do something offbeat and she would give them the beads. One guy had to lick her boots. Basically she had to get out among people a let loose. After several tasks she eventually made the grade. Not sure what channel this was on. MTV? VH1? |
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MagicalArtist Veteran user Hobart, Indiana 378 Posts |
Capitalprophets, just a post like that letting me know I'm not alone really helps. You sound like you're pretty young. In your case, while your shyness will probably never completely go away, it will probably become less over time, if you keep at it.
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David Round New user England 5 Posts |
I have already stated this in my Introduction but feel that I could ask the question here as it relates to the topic.
I find that when I attempt to perform magic to complete strangers I find it difficult to cope. I don't have much of a problem approaching these people but lack the confidence in performing. My hands tend to shake, I begin to sweat and I find it difficult to speak. Speaking is obviously the main problem especially if the trick demands it. What do you think I am doing wrong? |
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Liam Jones Veteran user 384 Posts |
If your shy you tend to get adrenalin rush when performing and you will perform good and everyone will enjoy the routine, but if your confident the same thing happens without the adrenalin rush . in alll it doesn't matter
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G. LaBarre Regular user Vancouver, B.C. Canada 121 Posts |
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On 2004-04-21 11:30, Reis O'Brien wrote: That was an interesting analysis of why we take up Magic in the first place and why we find it difficult to perform sometimes. I often describe myself as an introvert/ extrovert. I want to entertain, but the guilt of being so deceptive, creates an anxiety of being caught. But almost every level of performer I've ever met has been nervous to some degree. So I tell my self, "Acknowledge it for what it is, then ignore it for what it isn't." Shyness is just a character trait of who we are, so do not shy away from doing what you love to do. I also like your previous suggestion of acting the part of the Magician for building up your confidence. I've heard it put this way, "Fake it till you make it."
Glen Alan - "The HOW in your Magic should be Secondary to the WOW in your Magic."
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Duxx New user Toronto Scarborough 19 Posts |
Don't worry about being shy, just go out and do your thing, after a while it will get better, I was shy also, but I have gotten to the point that I don't even think about it anymore.
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paulsmagic Regular user 130 Posts |
Jordan and emily from the first page gave excellent advice. after going to a children's hospital ward and performed for the kids my outlook changed. you never forget the smiles that you brought to their faces. the shyness starts to disappear. you start to realize that you are a significant being.
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Kevin Ram Special user Travelling through Europe 791 Posts |
As an assistant manager of a company I have to attend seminars and I also have to give speeches.
I remember the first time I went up on stage and there was about 300 people just staring up at me. That was when nervs really hit me.I cant remember much as I was in shock during it, but on getting feedback I was told things went fine. After a few years of doing these events I have found I don't get as nervous. It will get easier with experience
"Your the Italian stallion" As said by my g/friend
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
Great topic and great advice offered here.
I have a little differnt edge to this. I'm not shy at all but I have something else that stands in my way of casual conversations. That is the fact that I'm deaf. So I obviously have a hard time just chit chatting. One thing that's helped me and I hope I'll be able to explain it. I'm not a shy person like I said but I tend to just go about my business. Can't join in on conversations when you can't hear what's being talked about. But this is something I do that helps both me feeling "in place" and them seeing me as "The entrtainer" I'm there to be. That is to put myself in the state of mind I'm in while I'm performing. I know it might sound a little corney but I try to do what ever it is I'm doing with the feeling that I'm doing it in front of an audience. in some ways this is true because people who came to see me perform see me as an entertainer. If they haven't seen my act they won't know if I'm a good one or not, but they know what's why I'm there. So I'm there with a smile on my face. If somone is looking at me I give them a little wave like I would if I where on the stage. Suddenly I feel like even this is part of my show. It started before the actual performance started and went on until I left. I hope I explained that right. Maybe somoene will find it useful. Who knows. Ron Jaxon |
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TheHelpingHand New user New York 80 Posts |
For me, magic was the cure TO my shyness. I was hardly an extroverted person some five years ago, but performing magic plants the seeds of confidence and charisma into your personality.
So to answer your question, not only can a "shy guy" be a performing magician, a "shy guy" gets particularly incredible benefits from performing. Go for it.
- Dan the Man
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Cheryl New user Houston,Texas 12 Posts |
I have an odd problem with being in front of people. It's not that I can't do it but that I can't remember doing it after. It's like I do it and after I can't say how it felt or really what went on. I think I zone out in the moment. I'm not bad I think when I'm doing it but I'd like to remember when I do something good. I think that if you're not even a little nervouse then maybe you don't really want to be doing what you're doing. In high school being in the halftime show with the marching band was easy because I was just happy to be there.
:( I took the test and I'm an INTJ.
You don't chose magic...magic chooses you!
~Siegfried "To rise above what seems impossible,one must first believe" ~Siegfried & Roy "Magic is an illusion. Courage is real." |
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TheHelpingHand New user New York 80 Posts |
Cheryl, performance anxiety is a REAL issue. It's not just a matter of mind over, well, matter. And it can have all kinds of crazy effects on you, including the memory warp - which I've read about before.
I recommend that you keep practicing and keep perfroming until your confidence as a magician REPLACES your nerves.
- Dan the Man
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Tspall Regular user Lumberton, NC 147 Posts |
Ron,
What you said makes a lot of sense and is good advice. As a teacher, I "perform" in some way almost everyday. Sure, it's my main personality but it's also a kind of performance because of how you handle a class. There are a lot of similarities. Outside of class, I'm not as outgoing. It takes me a while to warm up to people, I have to get to know them first. If I'm in a situation where I have to deal with new people (like at a party, etc.) I just think of myself as still in a classroom...put myself into that frame of mind. It helps me to get over it. |
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
As an English teacher living in Spain I find my usual shyness evaporates before a crowd when I am confident about the material I'm using. I joke and smile and might even sing if I need to! But at parties I'm very quiet, almost not there at all, and sometimes stutter.
For this reason I am only showing my tricks to a few isolated people and friends until I master all the moves and can link tricks as smoothely as I link grammar points in a class. |
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metwin1 New user Singapore 60 Posts |
I'm an ENTP, but I don't consider myself an extrovert. I'm friendly when being approached, but I never take the initiative to approach somebody else.
Which is why I've limited my magic performances to a few close friends, and even then, my hands shake. And as you know, shaky hands does wonders in card sleights, which ups my stress level even more. Patter that seem natural when practising alone sounds contrive and ridiculous in a crowd, and I can literally feel my mind crank as it struggles to remember what to do next. |
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