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David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Hi all,
It's been a long time since I've posted! Several years in fact. In that time, I've worked on more and more coin material. Here is my version of Kainoa Harbottle's Tablehopper's Quattro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u1dldvuQNI&feature=youtu.be I've been experimenting with different advantages of it for incorporating other coins, such as one of the coins doing a spellbound. This gets past some of the limitations of these routines of not having an ending since it can be the ending itself or just part of a longer routine that has an ending. The routine I perform on video can also be performed standing, just with the coin going through the trouser pocket rather than the table. References: Kainoa Harbottle, Michael Rubinstein, John Cornelius, Slydini, David Roth and Geoffrey Latta. |
simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1410 Posts |
Hi David,
Nice Skills buddy well done. I particularly like the Karate Coin section of the routine and the first coin got me too LOL! I’d like to see the stand up version - I’m guessing perhaps you’d be using Secret Servante there perhaps? Have you tried the routine with just three coins? Although the coin using the muscle pass certainly demonstrates your skill, I’m not sure if it’s as strong as the other sectors in terms of magical content? Using three different coins could then also link into perhaps a CSB effect too? Anyway, lots of food for thought. Well done my friend - thanks for sharing.
Magically,
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
Definitely well done. I was glad to catch this as your YouTube channel so I subscribed. (I have followed some of your work on Aaron Fisher's Conjuring Community). Looking forward to more. Kainoa's Tablehopper's Quattro is actually a favorite of mine because instead of each coin doing the same thing (in different ways so you don't get caught) Each of the four coins "Do their own thing" making methods almost impossible to catch or follow. It reminds me a bit of a sampler appetizer at a nice restaurant.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
David my friend, just beautiful!
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Ray Haining Inner circle Hot Springs, AR 1907 Posts |
Very nice. With the first coin, you do that Rubinstein move really well, the best I've seen.
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David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Hi Sean,
I actually don't use it for this routine. I make the 3rd coin penetrate out of my pocket and steal out the Karate coin at that moment. But now that you mention it, I should play around with how I use it. It would be easy to steal/ditch a coin while reaching for another coin, allowing other coins to be switched in earlier. I have to disagree with you on the magicalness of the "coin that falls up". I think when done well with no hand movement from the bottom hand, it is very deceptive. From the front they can't even see the grip in the coin so it appears to rise on its own. When I do it in a one coin routine, I pretend to use static electricity from my hand to make it rise. I frequently get teenagers rubbing their hands trying to duplicate the feat after! As for three coins, well I'm only just beginning to experiment with this routine. For this routine in my act it came before classic matrix and a coin box routine, both using four coins, so it made sense to use four. In walk around, most of my coin magic uses three coins so I'll probably experiment more with three. That would work really well for CSB. All the coins could be inspected, then the gimmick could be switched in as part of this routine first ready for the trick later! Thanks for all your thoughts |
David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Thanks Poof-Daddy. That's a good point about methods - they can be as different as you like. You can also adjust them on the fly to fit the situation, for instance if there's a glass on the table you can do a quick coin though glass effect.
Thanks Mb, always a pleasure to hear from you. I still perform a copper silver that is heavily influenced by Jumpmandu - learning the Crimp Change from you really boosted my magic! Thanks Ray, apart from the Doctor himself! It's a lovely move and one of my favourites to do, especially for other magicians. |
Wilktone Loyal user Asheville, NC 258 Posts |
Regarding 3 or 4 coins for this routine, I'd like to point out that Harbottle's routine is based on Tablehopper's Trio, by Curtis Kam. It's essentially the same idea of having each coin do something different.
I'll also note that David's routine is also different from how Harbottle wrote it up. If I recall correctly, in Harbottle's writeup the first coin goes through the table, the 2nd and 3rd coin are attracted to each other (coin 2 jumps to the same hand as coin 3 and is repeated with the fingertip muscle pass). The final coin "goes backwards in time," and includes the muscle pass bit. David, I enjoyed your variation and wish I hadn't read this thread before watching. The karate coin part would have surprised me if I hadn't read that it was coming. Great job! Dave |
David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Thanks Dave, I'm glad you enjoyed it
Yes mine is quite different from Kainoa's, which is why I referenced several others that influenced it. The nice part about the idea of each coin doing something different is that you can vary it a lot - even jazzing it to some extent. I have played with several variations and this has been my favourite combination so far. |
daniel116 Regular user 196 Posts |
Man why did I read the comments on this thread before watching the video?
I caught a glimpse of someone saying something about a karate coin and the surprise was ruined for me. Everything was very well performed though, really nice handling and smooth operating. |
MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
Wow - love that routine. Kind of a "Best of Coins." Thanks for posting the clip.
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rabbitok New user Sydney, Australia 52 Posts |
David, that work it spectacular, I think moving from this into matrix would be very logical, though I think making it matrix to the 4-coin routine would be even stronger " Why do the coins move ? , well I've trained them all to have special powers" and you end with the 4-coin vanish ... p.s.that initial "back in time" is a fooler !
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David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Thanks Daniel116. It's definitely better with a surprise and the imp pass really comes at an unexpected point. Next time I post something, make sure not to read them!
Thanks MaxfieldsMagic - I'm glad you liked it and that's certainly what it feels like. Thanks rabbitok. That would be an interesting way to frame it. I followed it by matrix, where the cards were introduced to prevent me from doing sleight of hand, so it made sense to do it after with that patter, but this would make a good follow up too. I actually changed it the second time I did my show there to be followed by an okito box routine (Out-In-Out by Roth) which is full of surprises and has a strong finale, so I felt it worked better. A 4 coin vanish would certainly be a good ending, especially since I started by producing them. |
John Long Inner circle New Jersey 2826 Posts |
The move for the first coin going back to the table always seemed bold(there was a routine from Jaxon that uses a similar move), to me.. but you totally got me. I think the per-conditioning did its job on me.
John
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David Fillary Special user 662 Posts |
Thanks John.
This is actually not the way I did this when I performed in my show. For that, I just did a classic palm false transfer and used my hand to support myself as I leaned to a spectator on my left (to watch the coin go back in time). Then brought both hands up and pantomimed the coin disappearing. I think having a spectator there makes the misdirection a lot stronger as everyone is interested in what will happen to them. It was a good two seconds before I heard someone gasp or make any noise at all, so pretty sure it went by everyone. But I knew that definitely wouldn't work on camera, so thought I'd try this with the pre-conditioning, so I'm glad to hear it worked! |
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