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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1179 Posts |
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On Nov 19, 2018, gallagher wrote: Sherlock Holmes is turning over in his fictional grave.
Bob
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The Hermit Veteran user 301 Posts |
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On Nov 17, 2018, landmark wrote: Edison, Ford, Watson were all ripped off by capitalists? If you want a 21st century standard of living, you have to put up with some consequences. All those evil men gave you modern medicine, education, freedom to do more than anyone, anywhere in history. It's a trade off. Of course we could go with socialism and only be left with unimaginable human suffering, ecological devastation and shorter life spans. |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
San Francisco's air quality is presently three times worse than just about anywhere else on Earth, and you want to talk about ecological devastation?
The capitalist countries have been waging non-stop war for pretty much a century now, and you want to talk about unimaginable human suffering? A 21st century standard of living? What does that mean? Where the few have gold-plated toilets while the many barely have healthcare? Edison, Ford, and Watson were famously cutthroat businessmen as well as inventors. There are on the other hand many many inventors and scientists whose names will never be known by the public for their contributions because their companies lay claim to the patents and copyrights.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Who runs San Francisco exactly?
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<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Animated Puppets Loyal user Lost on a Green Screen 285 Posts |
They could improve the air quality if they started wearing flowers in their hair again.
I still recall the day I met Beaker from the Muppets. He said to me "Meep, meep, mee mee mee Meep!", and that has made all the difference.
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1337 Posts |
As Henry Ford implemented his assembly lines to build his cars at the turn of the century, he raised daily wages to $5, almost double the going rate for the day. He also made the work day 8 hours instead of 9, as others were scheduling. Granted the reduction in hours was more to make it easier for him to schedule 3 shifts in a day rather than being kind to the workers....still it gave the impression.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Nov 20, 2018, Dannydoyle wrote: Russia? China?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Nov 21, 2018, imgic wrote: Yes, very true. That was good. Raising the wage somehow didn't destroy the economy. He also had his goons viciously beat up workers who tried to unionize. Not so good.
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The Hermit Veteran user 301 Posts |
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On Nov 20, 2018, landmark wrote: OK so capitalism is responsible for fires, check. No fires under socialism. Wars are a capitalist thing, check. The fact that there are fewer wars now than anytime in history doesn't count. Ford, Watson and Carnegie et al were good businessmen, check. Also they gave away huge parts of their wealth for the common good doesn't matter. 21st century standard of living is gold toilets for the 1%. Modern medicine, lower infant mortality, sanitation, welfare, food stamps, stable government, freedom of speech don't count either. If you are employed by a company to invent, given the resources you need to invent, then the product belongs to the company. It's pretty simple really. Everyone in that position knows that. If I hire someone to clean my house and they lift the rug and find $500, I think it still belongs to me. As a capitalist, I'd give them a tip though. You're right. That capitalism thing has just about ruined us. Who doesn't miss the gulags, bread lines, forced sterilization, famine and pollution? |
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Animated Puppets Loyal user Lost on a Green Screen 285 Posts |
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On Nov 21, 2018, landmark wrote: If you're going to Gulag Archipelago Be sure to wear a blue cap over your hair If you're going to Gulag Archipelago You're gonna meet some ideological prisoners there For those who come to Gulag Archipelago You will receive a new education there...
I still recall the day I met Beaker from the Muppets. He said to me "Meep, meep, mee mee mee Meep!", and that has made all the difference.
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imgic Inner circle Moved back to Midwest to see 1337 Posts |
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On Nov 21, 2018, The Hermit wrote: Japanese American Internment camps, Native American reservations, Stertilzarion of natives and people of color, lines for gas in the ‘70’s, 1 in 6 Americans currently “food insecure” (new catch phrase for going hungry), and new degregilation in Air standards (especially with coal power plants) will lead to an estimated 1,400 more dead a year. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” Winston Churchill
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On Nov 21, 2018, imgic wrote: I'm sure that this is a word. I'm not so sure in what language. |
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