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Axel Elite user Berlin 451 Posts |
This is the most amazing memory stunt I've ever seen:
Magnus Carlsen plays three games of chess. Timed, simultaneously... and blindfolded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmXwdoRG43U |
Adam Meier Regular user 135 Posts |
It is not a trick. He is the world champion in chess and do this for real.
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Axel Elite user Berlin 451 Posts |
Yes, I know.
I unsuccessfully tried to be funny with that topic. I just thought that this is an astonishing feat and wanted to share it. We sometimes perform things that might look like this. But I think it can be humbling to remind ourselves that some people actually can do it. I can't imagine what's going on in Magnus' head. |
aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
No matter how good he is, I doubt that the blinfold is real....
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Chris K Inner circle 2544 Posts |
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On Feb 10, 2019, aligator wrote: Agree to disagree |
Axel Elite user Berlin 451 Posts |
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On Feb 10, 2019, aligator wrote: I am pretty sure he's not faking it. The guy is a genius. He played a draw against Kasparow when he was 13. Whatever mnemotechnique he utilizes for doing this, I guess it's real. Maybe some of our memory-experts know more about it? My guess would be some variation of the loci-technique? |
Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts |
I think it's more basic than that. I think he sees each board as a snapshot. When each move is announced, he mentally moves that piece and creates a new snapshot. I don't think he is independently storing the location of each piece the way a memory expert would, but rather he sees the entire board as a snapshot. The hard part is flushing the old snapshot when you create a new one, and not getting ANY of these images confused in your mind.
He wouldn't be able to effectively play the game if he had to reconstruct each piece's position via a traditional memory map. And for the record, I thought your initial post was hilarious. I laughed out loud.
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Adam Meier Regular user 135 Posts |
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On Feb 10, 2019, Axel wrote: We often go blind in this forum, and when we see something spectacular we think it is a trick. But it would be impossible to duplicate this as a trick, so I should have understood that it was a joke Magnus Carlsen is amazing, and I have seen he has done several almost impossible feats. But the funny part is that he was fooled badly by a mentalist who used a well known promystic item. |
John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12945 Posts |
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On Feb 10, 2019, Axel wrote: I got it. Us funny sarcastic people understand each other. |
Alexxander Elite user Frankfurt, Germany 423 Posts |
I heard several chess grandmasters say that blindfold chess is something that most chess grandmasters can do. And as far as I know most people do not use mnemonic systems - it's just the tens of thousands of hours playing chess, having incredible amounts of positional patterns deeply ingrained in their mind.
This guy however.... he must have some kind of system: https://www.chess.com/news/view/timur-ga......rds-5729 :O |
WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts |
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On Feb 10, 2019, aligator wrote: "I don't know how he could do this, so it must be faked somehow." Some people are just really, really good at what they do. This is true mentalism - building the skills of the mind to incredible degrees.
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Lior Inner circle 1961 Posts |
You can but it fro Penguin
What kind of shows are you going to use it? I used to do the 21ST Knight Tour (and sell the software to display it on a big screen. You can do it only in high tech conferences or a room full of nerds. You need to make it more interesting and put a lot of showmanship not easy but I like the original post very funny
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Sudo Nimh Inner circle 1879 Posts |
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On Feb 11, 2019, Steven Keyl wrote: I think you're right. There's a few shortcuts he could utilize too because all advanced Chess players use established openings and defenses which are relatively easy to visualize. But still, this wouldn't be an easy task by any means. |
Consultthemind1 Regular user 185 Posts |
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On Feb 11, 2019, Adam Meier wrote: It’s not impossible to duplicate this as a trick, in-fact it’s very easily replicated. I can think of three ways off of the top of my head to do this exact thing. That’s not to take away from this though - it’s an incredible feat of memory and if it is a feat of trickery he is using even better (I feel it’s genuine). Thank you for sharing, David. |
Chris K Inner circle 2544 Posts |
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On Feb 11, 2019, Consultthemind1 wrote: Good for you, my friend. There's a very basic approach in chess demonstrations that allows for a player to guarantee he wins as many as he loses, so hopefully that very basic approach is one of the three. However, moving on, I'm a chess lover. Not any good, mind you but, for example, I have thousands of online games under my belt. What's mentioned earlier about thinking of the board in term of snapshots is what is generally discussed in the chess world. There is an author (Heisman maybe) who talks about how artificial chess problems are often trickier for, let's say, A level players than B or C level, because they are used to seeing boards that reflect variations on known quantities (Benoni Defense with Benko Gambit for example). This is actually a fun topic but, as far as I know at least, demonstrations like this aren't really memory stunts, they are chess stunts. I know that seems like a semantic difference but, as far as I know, most don't use mnemonic systems per se. I highly recommend chess as a hobby. Low cost, functionally infinite replay potential, lots of free resources and apps. And, hey, maybe a good way to exercise that memory thing. |
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