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Consultthemind1 Regular user 185 Posts 
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Just had a look at this -
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/11705 It looks exactly like Peter Turner’s “Missing in action” / “Missing no” from his masterclass series / Did2. Even using this to divine a playing card seems similar. Does this come with an app? If so, is there anyone that owns both of them who can tell me the benefits of this (if it is an app?) it appears to be a blatant ripoff. I personally don’t like any effect where the participant adds things up (regardless of how or why- with phone/ without a phone). But this sounds no different. Thoughts? David. |
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videoman Inner circle 6748 Posts
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I don’t own PT's so can’t compare but I personally did not care for Wunderkind. Instructions must be followed exactly and are too complicated for me to bother with.
Not saying it can’t be done, but spec will either make a mistake OR be underwhelmed by having to follow such a specific and odd process. There are so many other effects I would choose to do rather than this one. Other performers may be able to make a miracle out of it but I’m not that good. |
MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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This has been revealed multiple times on scam school. This isn’t new in any way. Why in the world is this being released as a download, and even more so, why in the world is penguin promoting it in their newsletter!? This has been around for ages.
Wow, I’m disappointed in the team. Madison |
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Consultthemind1 Regular user 185 Posts
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On May 10, 2019, MadisonH wrote: The original principle was actually a memory feat if I’m not mistaken released by Lorayne or Bergeron. From what I gather Turner was the first to tie the principle to things like a pin code/ playing card etc. turning it into a divination system. The way this is presented here and the concepts shared I’ve been informed are the same. Also disappointed in penguin for not doing any research. David. |
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cho7 New user France 66 Posts
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On May 10, 2019, MadisonH wrote: And why is it so expensive? 24$ (19$ currently) for an instant download on Penguin is way too much. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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Hi David,
Turner was only the first to combine it with 4 people. But the way I learned it several years ago is identical to what’s presented here except without the need to write down their numbers on your own calculator. Madison |
Seth speaks Inner circle New Mexico 1250 Posts
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I know the basic effect is old as the hills, but is there anything that sets this release apart? Wondering why Marc Salem and others would be so excited about it if it was the same old thing..?
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egoli Special user The only magician from Que Que, Southern Rhodesia 737 Posts
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There is no mathematics involved - you don't have to work out anything - your own calculator secretly gives you the missing number. I finally got to watch the hour and a half download and now I'm ready to try it out next week
Ed |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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On May 10, 2019, egoli wrote: Glad to hear this. So he HAS added something by not having to compute the info yourself. Personally, I prefer the original method since it means I don’t have to have my phone in play. Madison |
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Justin Lewis Special user 981 Posts
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This is good ****!! Great effect
“The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it.”- Anonymous
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gibby357 Veteran user The Woodlands, TX 344 Posts
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I love this! I was unaware of the roots to this effect but the calculator does everything. Not giving anything away, everything seems adjustable and user friendly. You can reveal a just though of number, do a magic square with 2 thought of numbers and even a card reveal. I do not own the Peter Turner effect but I am very impressed with the ease of use and inability to figure this out on the spectators part. And the price boarders between fair and cheap to me. You get a lot for your buck!
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slowkneenuh Regular user After 5,278+ posts, only credited with 133 Posts
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I enjoy performing mathematical effects. However, most times participants are on edge and despite their qualifications are intimidated doing math and invariably make mistakes without a great deal of coaching. This effect couldn't be easier for the spectators to participate and it's a classic effect utilizing current day technology that most people are familiar with. A job well done by the developer! He did a thorough job covering all aspects of the app, device and performance.
My only regret is that I didn't get it when it was on sale. 
John
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rosariorose9 Inner circle Kreskin guessed that I had 1159 Posts
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On May 18, 2019, slowkneenuh wrote: As far as I can tell, it still IS on sale (unless it was available at an even lower price at some point in time). |
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videoman Inner circle 6748 Posts
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On May 19, 2019, rosariorose9 wrote: When I bought it the sale price was $9.95. |
milesart Loyal user Switzerland 215 Posts
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With this example it wont work. anybody owns the effect and knows what I am talking about please PM:
250880000 spec. thinks about 8 and gives 00000852 |
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ursmagicbalu Inner circle India 1080 Posts
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Contact details of Andreas Dante please
“It’s not what you do that matters, or even how you do it;
it’s what the spectators perceive you as doing that matters. That’s the MAGIC they’ll remember.” |
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