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Azura Stardust New user 6 Posts |
Hey everyone, this is my first post and it's already a cry for help! I'm a budding card magician on a budget (at the moment anyway) and I've started out by working through the RRTCM. I do keep jumping ahead and reading bits here and there but I am trying to work methodically through the chapters as well.
My problem is with the books' picture of what the glide should look like. I get the concept and I get the way it should be held but the only way I can get the card to slide that way with the card in that position would be to break a finger. Could someone help point out where it is I am fundamentally screwing up?
He called me a fatalist, but i'd never collected a postage stamp in my life.
~ Yogi Berra |
Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
Well, sometimes, you gotta sacrifice an appendage for magic....
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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Azura Stardust New user 6 Posts |
Heh sure, I know the books aren't law, if I keep on practicing and it still ain't happening (the glide beggining to work as opposed to an apendage breaking) then I'll just change it to something more manageable and try and cover the angles.
He called me a fatalist, but i'd never collected a postage stamp in my life.
~ Yogi Berra |
Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
I am not an experienced card worker, so I can't help much, but when I work with coins, if I can't pull something off (because of the build of my hands or a previous injury with a table saw), I modify it to a move in which I can perform. It may not be the same as the book, but it doesn't need to be, as long as it works.
Books are just reference not law.
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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Azura Stardust New user 6 Posts |
Yeah, the royal road itself is fifty years old I believe (and counting!) Still... fingers just don't move sideways like that! The authors must of had fully articulating fingers or something.
He called me a fatalist, but i'd never collected a postage stamp in my life.
~ Yogi Berra |
ninjaduffy Veteran user UK 332 Posts |
Man, my fingers are fine....
dont look at the means look at the ends..... and think about it. |
Richard Lucas Special user TX fornow- MemberMagicCastle'65-'88 737 Posts |
1)The deck or packet is held in the left hand with the long side of the deck is parallel to your body.
2)The fingers are on the long outside of the deck curled under the deck, the thumb is on the opposite long side closest to the body, the little finger rests in back of the short side of the deck. 3) The ring finger slides the bottom card to the left allowing the fingers of the right hand to approach the right short side of the deck. 4)The right thumb is lightly pressed against the short right side of the deck, while the four fingers go underneath the deck. 5)The middle finger of the right hand touches the card that is now 2nd from bottom and glides it out to the right. There is nothing awkward with the move, I have done this "Now You See It" for many years, they will go for #2 card 90% of the time with astonishing results. I have never broken my ring finger, in fact I can't figure what the **** you guys are talking about.
"The only difference between a Card Cheat and a Magician is that the Magician shows off.".......... Jay Ose 1965
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Chris C. New user 72 Posts |
I use my thumb instead of my ring finger. No one's ever caught the move.
If you need more help, pm me. I don't know how much I can post here without it being cosidered exposure. |
jsmagus New user 71 Posts |
I hold the deck with my pinky alongside my other fingers, and use the pinky to execute the move, and I do not have a problem with angles at all.
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King of Diamonds Regular user Elite user 139 Posts |
At first I couldn't do the glide, but if you just keep practicing it will come to you. The description in Royal Road is how I do it, so just keep trying it and eventually it will come naturally.
King of Diamonds
King of Diamonds
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JordanB Special user dallas, tx 626 Posts |
It's probably the grip. I found Royal Road very difficult to follow at first but it will get easier with time. I think it would be worthwhile to check out Dai Vernon's Glide from his inner card books. It looks much better in my opinion.
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GypsyPirate Regular user 110 Posts |
If you still can't get it down, you can even resort to (while holding the deck in your left hand) gliding the card with your right middle fight while you pull out the next card with your thumb and index finger. A bit more obvious, but it works with practice.
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Partizan Inner circle London UK 1682 Posts |
Get some DVD's or videos. You will learn 100% better and understand what the book is saying when you go back to it.
There is NO better way to learn this type of stuff, than seeing someone do the actual move, and explain to you what is needed.
"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus."
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Popeye New user England 12 Posts |
Hi All
If you are having problems with the descriptions in the books, I'd definitely go with Partizans' advice and get a video/DVD. I really struggled with the RRTCM diagrams, but found that it all became much clearer after actually watching the move on video. I went for some of the videos from Daryls 'encyclopedia' set - but if you buy these make sure you look at the stuff that is on the tape first (basically because some of the moves that you need to learn early on are actually on the later tapes eg double lift). I've since bought some downloads off the net and these have been just as useful, and an awful lot cheaper. Stick with it - it's worth it in the end ! Bev |
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