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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2501 Posts 
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A reminder that cartomancy with "regular" playing cards has been around since the late 14th century, whereas tarot divination didn't emerge until the late 18th century (tarot decks themselves arrived in the early 15th century, but had no occult/mystical/ Egyptian symbology or significance until much later). So there's an additional four centuries of tradition and experience with the former.
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts
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It is a significant difference. I’m not sure it is a disadvantage. Sometimes the majors can sort of overshadow other cards in a spread. Also, there’s a novelty factor when reading with regular playing cards.
In the end, both are related, but do have a very different vibe to them. Pick what appeals most to you and remember to be kind. Sometimes people are really hurting and what you say can be helpful or harmful. At least be kind in what you say, even if you are not sugarcoating the message a lot. (If I see the 9 of Swords, I don’t try to play it off as a happy card, for example.) Patrick |
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peculiarone Veteran user Fence almost done. I've already put in 324 Posts
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The Laws of Scientific Hand Reading by William Benham. You can find a free ebook version on Mr. Dyment's site.
The Art and Science of Hand Reading by Ellen Goldberg Invisible Readings by Enrique Enriquez A look at Marseille Tarot by Enrique Enriquez The Dance by Brad Henderson. |
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luiscubanmentalist New user 29 Posts
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On Aug 12, 2020, Alfred Borden wrote: mevproshop.com is great! I love and recommend Enrique Enriquez's Invisible Readings |
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Alfred Borden New user 55 Posts
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On Sep 18, 2020, luiscubanmentalist wrote: Are the books from Enrique Enriquez also suitable for beginners? |
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts
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I only have Invisible Tarot. It isn’t for beginners. It assumes a good working knowledge of the tarot and the people skills that come from several readings. It isn’t that a beginner won’t get something from it, but an experienced reader will be able to use it much better than a beginner can.
I can’t speak about any of his other products. In general, I advise you to pick one good resource and actually learn from it. We all want the instant method that will have us doing high-dollar performances or readings in a week. No matter how good the material, though, there is no substitute for actual experience. Learn the meanings by brute force if you have to, do some practice readings with the free tool on Deceptionary, then offer a few readings to friends over video conferencing. It won’t be long before you are ready to get paid, but if you just keep chasing the EZ Tarot for Doofuses books, you’ll spend so much time on that and take forever to get to where you can actually give a reading. Sometimes the hard way is the easy way. Patrick |
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luiscubanmentalist New user 29 Posts
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On Sep 21, 2020, Alfred Borden wrote: Yes. Invisible Readings teaches you how to read without any props. Invisible Tarot is specifically for Tarot. I also highly recommend Kenton and wonderwizards.com |
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Matt Pulsar Inner circle 1130 Posts
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Take your time and learn all you can. You will never stop learning and you will never know all there is to know. The resources mentioned so far are great. But also study books that were not created by magicians and Mentalists. Find the section of your local library that has books on tarot and read what’s there.
For my work the core or the reading is tarot. I supplement this with an oracle deck and sometimes read with regular playing cards instead. When the nature of the clients focus is helped by looking at their palm I do that too. Having multiple areas of knowledge is useful. I end longer readings by scrying and have found that the most specific information and the most commonly astounding responses come from this practice. When I’m just hanging out with people or after a show I commonly will give palm readings. I think of it this way: reading with cards is the most commercial and easiest to sell. The word Tarot is an eye catcher and works to provide a platform that the clients understand. What people want is generally information to help decide about the direction they are going. They want to know about the future in some way. Cards can speak to this most directly. Reading palms is the most social, and more like a personality test. It’s less about the future and more about them. Also it’s faster. For some reason though I find people are more drawn to card readings. Scrying for me is the most accurate and profound but I don’t think it’s for everyone. Learning graphology and other more “scientific” methods are great but remember that what people more often want is a mystical experience. Learn all you can and practice. Take one thing at a time. I advice against deception in practice.
Belief Manifests Reality.
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pulpscrypt Special user Within the shadows 581 Posts
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Luke Jermay is currently running a very interesting and comprehensive study on the Tarot via his Facebook page. It's free and has been tremendously helpful.
Runs about 2 hours every Sunday AM. Highly recommended! Today's subject will be the Death Card. |
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sgrossberg Special user Southern California 739 Posts
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On Aug 15, 2020, RCP wrote: Thank you, RCP. The 10th Anniversary Edition of The Vitruvian Square is being released in mid-November. |
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts
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Wow, 10 years already? Time flies.
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts
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So glad this will be available again! I don’t think beginners will get much from it, at least I didn’t, but intermediate readers will find VS a very valuable resource. And in a world full of beginner books, the few that take you further are that much more important.
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