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HofzinsersFan New user Scotland 81 Posts |
Hi all, I am a great believer in having a motivation for everything I do, so if I put both hands to the deck there has to be a reason for it..or if I am ditching a coin to my pocket for example, then I will pick up a sharpie or something else to place in my pocket. No great surprises there I'm sure, its pretty standard stuff.
So, what is with the Braue Reversal? People just go into it without saying a thing, yet it is a very unnatural and odd move to be doing with a deck of cards, is it not? Does no one care that you are just turning ing cards over and over for no known reason? Whats your opinion in it because I don't like to do it at all and will opt for a sneaky half pass or some other made up method of reversing a card when they aren't able to see it, instead of this blatant unnatural manoeuvre. . . What do you mean you don't read? . You need to read FITZKEE - Dick Oslund, 2019. |
JonHackl Regular user Western Australia 198 Posts |
The only place I currently use it is in Bannon's Last Man Standing. But I use patter to give it justification. Something like: "In most tricks or card games you keep all the cards face down. You wouldn't normally turn half of them face up ..." *first part of Braue Reversal* "... without turning them all face up." *second part of Braue Reversal* "But for this trick the deck will be half one way and half the other way..."
I like hiding in plain site. The idea is that you just seem to be explaining what's going to happen. Hopefully, that's how they'll remember it, instead of thinking, "What the heck was that weird cut thing he was doing?"
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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
There are a number of moves magicians do that seem illogical or unnecessary. We try to avoid most of them, but sometimes they just "fit" or are the most direct method, so we use them. I agree with you about the Braue Reversal and tend to avoid it when possible. I feel the same way about Marlo's ATFUS move. I think Jon's idea of covering it with appropriate patter helps. At least there is some justification for the move.
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts |
Braue Reversal is a great move. Design your presentation to give it some motivation as stated above.
Break it up into half moves a la Roger Krause. Simon Lovell does this in his Fingered Number 3. |
NicholasD25 Veteran user 382 Posts |
If you like moves, you could replace it with a Krenzel reversal , inserting the top card into the middle of the deck as you do it. Then, it just looks like you’re turning the deck face up.
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HofzinsersFan New user Scotland 81 Posts |
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On May 3, 2021, JonHackl wrote: This is excellent. It is how I would usually go about something too if I had no other way and had to use the move. I would think of something to say at the time to cover it and make it seem innocuous. I love what you've come up with though. So simple and definitely makes it seem innocuous. Very nice, thanks for sharing that. . . What do you mean you don't read? . You need to read FITZKEE - Dick Oslund, 2019. |
HofzinsersFan New user Scotland 81 Posts |
I will have to look up these other suggestions as I don't know he Ken Krenzel reversal and have not heard of Roger Crause.
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magicfish Inner circle 7016 Posts |
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On May 5, 2021, HofzinsersFan wrote: Roger Klause (auto incorrect) |
NicholasD25 Veteran user 382 Posts |
Ken Krenzel’s mechanical reverse is actually sort of an action half pass. However, the move is easily modified to reverse only one card instead of half the deck,and then , further modified to insert that one card into the center of the deck as the deck is turned face up. Hope that’s fairly clear.
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JonHackl Regular user Western Australia 198 Posts |
Thank you, HofzinsersFan! I put together a little CAAN-type trick once that used a Braue Reversal of a face-up deck. I did something similar: "In a moment I'll get you to choose a number. If you choose a high number, hopefully we'll find your card in these. If you choose a low number, hopefully it will be in here." It's not quite as a good, but the idea still is that, hopefully, the moment doesn't really register in the spectator's memory, because it was just a brief explanation of what's coming. With a Triumph, though, like LMS, the justification seems very strong to me.
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts |
Check out the Paul Gordon’s effect for this, it’s completely justified
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Merc Man Inner circle NUNEATON, Warwickshire 2538 Posts |
In the UK, we generally work standing - either mixing/mingling, or at tables whereby space is extremely limited.
In these circumstances, the move naturally fits.
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts |
Caleb Wiles uses it nicely where he does it in the context of talking about doing flourishy floppy things with the deck, moves on to something else, and comes back to the deck. So whatever happened with the reversal was contextual.
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