|
|
Go to page [Previous] 1~2 | ||||||||||
Rhewin Loyal user 250 Posts |
Quote:
On Dec 29, 2021, ddyment wrote: I can't imagine the harm in asking something like "are you happy with your choice? If you feel like you didn't really get a free selection for whatever reason you could change to another card/item/whatever." Perhaps there are those sensitive enough that being asked this would turn their whole world on their ear and ruin the rest of their day, but I feel they are few and far in between. I think the real conclusion of this thread is to give the option sparingly, when it makes sense, and in a way that enhances the feeling of a free choice, not highlights the fact it isn't. |
|||||||||
Leo H Inner circle 1332 Posts |
I would offer the spectator the chance to change his/her mind if it doesn't really matter in the effect. If the spectator has to stay on that choice, (a force), then I shut my mouth. Stress the fairness of the force, and move on with the effect.
|
|||||||||
k3nnyma New user 51 Posts |
Agree that offer an option to change their mind make it seems fairer
|
|||||||||
DragonLore New user Toronto 78 Posts |
Interesting debate!
I only consider asking when the choice is random (“pick a card, any card”) and undisclosed. I typically refrain from asking when the choice is conscious (“Think of a card”) and/or the choice is made openly or sometimes play it up as in Doug’s post. Usually playing it up serves a purpose, for instance, covering up that a portion of the selection process used an eq***e or another technique. |
|||||||||
Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
In my method of Tarot I always ask if they'd like to change their selected Tarot. In either case I'Il show them what card they had previously selected or the one I offered as a possible change .. as in" the Tarot to the left or the right" of the one they picked. They have no doubt that their selection was fair and they freely chose the random Tarot. Shouldn't this be down below?????
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
|
|||||||||
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
After a re-read of all posts above I would add concern over congruency with other Effects you have planned.
If you allow a participant to change his/her mind in one Effect, you plant the seed that they get to do so in all of your Effects. Last thing you want is, "You said it was OK to change my mind, so I am now thinking of a name different from the one I wrote down." Much better, methinks, to suggest and reward clear thinking or "first intuition is best." Yes, the illusion of free choice might impact the single person involved, but negatively impact everyone else. Since most of my presentations in past decades have been one-on-one I could use all sorts of psychological ploys that I would never use with a group. This is one of them.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
eBooks at https://www.lybrary.com/ken-muller-m-579928.html questions at ken@eversway.com |
|||||||||
Rhewin Loyal user 250 Posts |
Quote:
On Mar 23, 2022, funsway wrote: A great call out. I think we'd really be walking on thin ice to give the spectator a chance to change their mind on something thought of. I'd think we'd want to limit that to a choice among selected items. For example, the way Bob Cassidy gave the spectator a chance to change their selected billet in his Name and Place routine, or how you might give them a chance to switch with you on the final round of an e*****que. |
|||||||||
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Penny for your thoughts » » Spectators changing their mind (26 Likes) | ||||||||||
Go to page [Previous] 1~2 |
[ Top of Page ] |
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2024 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.02 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < |