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BILLY THE GOAT New user newcastle upon tyne 3 Posts |
I live in the UK so I like to use UK currency for coin magic. I do have half dollars but think 10 pence coins seem more natural. Which brings me to my question ' does anyone know of anywhere I can buy a GF 10p? I have only seen standard ones and all GF coins I have seen are US coins. I would really love a 10p version as the standard flipper seems limited for many tricks I have seen I would like to do.
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
I'm sure you could get a custom gaff maker to do one.
It's worth asking, though: which element do you need for this? Is it the easy-open/lie flat? Or the internal band? If it's the latter, you'll likely have to have it made. But if it's just the band tension being too much, if you replace a dental band with elastic thread, then you can set whatever tension you'd like, and make it as strong or loose as your preference. inigmntoya has a great guide on this if you search around. I've improved a number of flippers like that, but you might still have a visible groove. I hope that helps. |
inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
If you're on Facebook, I recommend that you contact Ronald Davies for custom coin work.
https://www.facebook.com/ronald.davies.37 Here's the link to replacing rubber bands with elastic beading cord: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/29h2osli3ju3t......CX8xDXra |
Degio Regular user It took me years to get to 152 Posts |
Another option:
https://www.jbtv.co.uk/p/latest-j-b-prod......-version |
tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
I assumed the OP didn't want a locking flipper, and I wasn't sure if the DD could remove that. But I suppose it is an option depending on the routine.
I actually found an image of one by Roy Kueppers, but it doesn't seem to be listed on his site anymore. Searching again now, it seems like maybe it was from Penguin: https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/13302 |
pabloinus Inner circle 1681 Posts |
Tangomagic has UK gaffed coins
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
They do, but if you do a quick search through their products, you'll see that the 10p is not one of the coins they make gaffs in...
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korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts |
Bob Swadling feom UK(thru JB magic) should be able to make you any gaffed coin if they don't already sell one.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Quote: Double Deception is a two coin set. The second coin influences the flipper to reset into ready position. Clever idea Bob Swadling ++On May 6, 2022, tonsofquestions wrote:
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
Yes, I understand how it works. I still wouldn't classify it as a "gravity flipper" - at least not if the primary distinguishing feature is that it can open just through gravity. The OP didn't comment on that, so we have to go with that as the assumption.
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2350 Posts |
I'd call Double Deception Deluxe* a locking gravity flipper. Non-gravity flippers (as in the original flipper coins) typically snap shut on their own.
They won't lay flat in the open position like a gravity flipper. As the name implies, gravity flippers will ALSO flop open from closed due to gravity if not a "locking" type. But locking versions came later. Evolution-wise it's roughly: Flipper Gravity flipper Locking gravity flipper Locking vs non-locking is obviously important if you have particular routines in mind,just as the ability to lay flat vs snap shut would affect how/where it could be used. Note that there's no need to describe anything as a "locking non-gravity flipper". By default the original non-gravity models "locked" closed due to the band tension. *The original Double Deception used a traditional (non-gravity) flipper. Quote:
On May 13, 2022, tonsofquestions wrote: |
tonsofquestions Inner circle 1802 Posts |
I guess it all depends on what you define as the key (pun not intended) feature of the "gravity" flipper.
I consider it to be the fact that you can just hold it to have it open up - and the locking flippers definitely cannot do that. Lying flat (while important) is more of an added bonus - but that's an opinion that's perhaps based on how I use mine. The fact that it requires something to open feels antithetical to the "gravity open" part, and I'd almost as soon put it in a completely different category. I don't recall the whole evolution, but I feel like it's important to also include magnetic flippers there. Which I'm pretty sure those existed before gravity ones, and it's not a big jump to go from magnetic properties to magnetic (stay) closed, and the (original) DD is born. Of course, it has a lot fewer uses by itself if it doesn't stay open as easily (and needs a key to open at all), though I have a vague recollection that there was a 3-fly set that used a locking (non-gravity, I think) flipper as part of the routine. In the end, it's two very different properties that often get consolidated into one term, and since we don't know which property the OP is most concerned about, it's hard to fully recommend a product. |
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