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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
In 2018 Juan did a lecture for vanishing inc called 'Vanishing Inc. Sessions'.
He did a performance only of an effect called 'Impossible Card Location' which I absolutely adore and could see myself using often, but he never taught it. Does anyone know if this has since come out, or will come out? I seem to remember seeing this concept before, from an old book of bygone days. But perhaps I am wrong and it is entirely Juans? |
ThomasJ Special user Chicago 999 Posts |
What is the timestamp on the performance?
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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
Can you summarize the effect. There are impossible location effects all over the literature. Wouldn’t surprise me that Juan used an old chestnut with his own spin on it.
It's never crowded on the extra mile....
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DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
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On Mar 8, 2023, ThomasJ wrote: 3:16 The effect is that no matter where the deck is cut, the identity of the top (or bottom card) is revealed by the 2 successive cards (one for the suit, and the other for the value). So if the spec cuts, and pockets the top card, the new top card will reveal the suit, and the second will reveal the value. It is some kind of cyclical stack. I swear I have seen it before. |
DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
Found it, its his Exhibition Deck from his Magic from My Heart DVD set.
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Nikodemus Inner circle 1140 Posts |
I am a bit confused about this.
If he uses the next two cards as a secret method to identify the selection, then you could do exactly the same thing with a mom-deck, but only need one card to identify the selection. If he openly takes the next two cards and they identify the selection, then it will be pretty obvious the deck has been set up to do so. What does Juan do - does he force the next two cards as apparently random selections? |
Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
It's never crowded on the extra mile....
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ThomasJ Special user Chicago 999 Posts |
Hey Nick,
Obviously it plays great given Juan’s presentation, but here’s a bare bones description of the effect: The deck is shuffled and returned to the magician. A participant cuts the deck, placing the card he cut to in his pocket. The deck is given back to the magician, who keeps it behind his back. He removes a seemingly random card from the deck while it’s behind his back. He shows the card to everyone and comments on the suit. Then he removes a second card, showing it and commenting on the value. The card in the participant’s pocket matches the aforementioned suit and value. |
korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts |
The trick is based on trick Orville Meyer "Your card" and it can be found in Jean Hugard Encyclopedia of Card Tricks p.204 1937. There it is with much more common stack. I reconstructed the effect independenly after seeing Juan do it in Spanish tv show Nada x Aqui a decade ago. Also Steve Beam has routine that is kinda similar in Semiautomatic Card Tricks vol.3 p.140 2000.
And as stated Juans version is in that Dvd set. Juha-Matti |
DJ Trix Inner circle 1197 Posts |
Hi korttihai_82.
In the 1937 version, and the Beam version, are the suit, and value card taken from the same position in the deck respectively as with Juans method and stack? I would like to not have to do this behind my back as I draw the two cards. As it just seems a little tricky to me. Although it works so well in Juans masterful hands. |
1tepa1 Inner circle 1281 Posts |
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On Mar 17, 2023, DJ Trix wrote: You could easily modify the handling so that even though the cards you need to take out are on the top at the start, you can make it so that you do take them out of the middle. Some false cuts, take the card out of the "middle". Or cut, hold a break, spread to the cut, take out a card. Give a few more cuts, take the second card out. |
ThomasJ Special user Chicago 999 Posts |
Since the deck is shuffled beforehand, placing the deck behind the back should make it more impossible.
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korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts |
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On Mar 17, 2023, DJ Trix wrote: Beam routine is different and nothing happens behind the back. In Beam the cards are found by spelling. But the method is basically same. The premise and presentation are different. The original from Encyclopedia is basically identical to Juans but uses more common stack that most people are familiar. In Encyclopedia version the cards don't come next to each other, they come from separate spots. Also the original stack is such that it is very easy to find the value and number also behind the back or under the table. |
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