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mattisdx Inner circle 1614 Posts |
Wear some sunglasses. Sometimes that helps psychologically.
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slydini9 New user 71 Posts |
Not one of these posts is helpful. In fact, they are rude.
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Kevin Ram Special user Travelling through Europe 791 Posts |
I'm sure you can see the funny side. It's not often we get to talk about OOZE.
OOZING isn't a bad thing. At least you're not overly nervous as some people are. Most magicians would love to OOZE. I sure could do with a bit more OOZING. Just carry on doing what you're doing, and if a spectator says anything just say, 'Its not me, it's the OOZE'. I'm sure they'll understand.
"Your the Italian stallion" As said by my g/friend
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts |
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On 2004-07-26 19:14, Slydini9 wrote: There are actually a couple of helpful posts in here. Please re-read what I wrote before. I think it could help your problem.
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
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On 2004-07-26 19:14, Slydini9 wrote: Were ALL of the posted responses to your question truly rude? I think not. Individuals have asked clarifying questions that you haven't answered. Others have provided ideas and suggestions to help you out. Yet you are quick to paint all of these responses unhelpful and rude. Some would consider your response brash and arrogant. ...or is it just your oozing confidence? |
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Richard Lucas Special user TX fornow- MemberMagicCastle'65-'88 737 Posts |
One of the best recommendations that I think might help is to practice your facial expressions in a mirror in an attempt to change how you are perceived. I did this years ago while learning a sales presentation to government executives and it won me a standing ovation.
Just learning how your facial experessions appear to the looker can be revealing, at least it was for me. When I do what comes naturally I am not a very pleasant or convincing person, but with with the aid of a mirror and a little honest self criticism I found that I can dramatically improve my presentation. Remember, it is all sales. We are selling the idea, so do it well, do it as if a $500,000.00 commission depended upon your presentation.
"The only difference between a Card Cheat and a Magician is that the Magician shows off.".......... Jay Ose 1965
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Paul H Inner circle UK South Coast 1135 Posts |
Hi Slydini9,
I think you are being courageous in putting forward a very psychologically complex issue that is also potentially painful to address especially in a public forum. I will try to formulate this with you, but it may sound difficult and even a bit harsh. When you describe your performance style as 'oozing' it conjures up for me someone who gives the impession of being 'over pleased' with their skills. This will appear as both arrogence and self satisfaction or conceit to an audience. Your performance may be dominated more by your own need to prove and/or demonstrate cleverness and less by the desire to actually reach out and entertain people. In other words, your performance is more self centred and less audience centred. Actually, this latter audience centred 'state of mind' involves being more in touch with the risk of failing among other things. If you feel able to relate to any of this, then the next problem is what to do about it. And here, I'm not sure what to suggest. One possible way forward is to remind yourself to monitor the audience reaction and your own reaction to theirs. For instance if an audience looks as though they are becoming amazed and admiring, this may well 'amplify' the 'oozing' you refer to and allow you to 'nip it in the bud'. Another possibility is to include tricks where you apparently fail. When you finally come up trumps in the end, it is good practice not to make this victory appear to look clever and 'smart arsed'. This handling does involve being in tune with your audience and enjoying the 'table turning' experience with them. I really do hope this is of some help to you over a difficult and sensitive issue. Regards, Paul H PS: By the way, I suspect that many of us on this board are also capable of 'oozing with over confidence' without being properly in touch with what is happening. Until the audience starts to respond unfavorably that is. Pride always comes before a fall as the saying goes. I doubt that Slydini9 is alone in this respect. |
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Jonathan P. Inner circle Belgium 1484 Posts |
A bit off-topic first: it is very funny to read a post about a word that I don't know at all. Very surrealistic to see that people can talk about "oozing" which is a quite strange word. Like in this Scorcese's movie "Mean streets" in which someone call another one a "mook".
Joking apart, I think I got the idea. And a lot of posts here seem to be very helpful. Indeed, it is a quite interesting thread. As a lot of people told before, I would advise to take some time to think about the presentation and about the scripts of the routine, trying to make them fit your purpose: less oozing (by the way, could someone give a short definition, even if I understood the fact that oozing is related to an over-self-confidence-that-could-be-perceived-as-arrogance.) I think that this presentation thinking will help you to integrate a way to perform that will answer your problem, and maybe will make your attitude to change more deeply (lowering your oozing tendecy.) I hope my english made clear that my post wasn't (at all) ironic. Good work. Jonathan. |
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Dirko Loyal user Michigan 287 Posts |
I am not trying to be rude but.... Slydini wrote none of these posts are helpful in fact they are rude. I consider this to be rude. There is some really good advice written here. Yes some people are trying to be funny but others are really trying to help.
This reminds me of something I read once (it might have been from Ammar but I'm not sure). You have to be a likeable person. If you are a jerk in real life then if you do magic then you are just a jerk that can do card tricks. DON"T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY. I AM NOT CALLING YOU A JERK. BUt maybe you have been oozing your entire life. Just a thought! |
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Kevin Ram Special user Travelling through Europe 791 Posts |
I visit the Café all the time and there is always a topic with a few jokes in.
Its great when your reading through a big topic on the pass, for example and someone cracks a joke to break it up. You couldn't expect to ask the question with no gags thrown in.It was too easy to joke about. The majority of people on this board are entertainers.And most entertainers find it impossible to not drop a gag when theres an obvious one there. But being serious now though. There has been a good few posts above. I hope you overcome the OOZE problem and the OOZE stops OOZING. kukram
"Your the Italian stallion" As said by my g/friend
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Reis O'Brien Inner circle Seattle, WA 2467 Posts |
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On 2004-07-26 19:14, Slydini9 wrote: Very well. You want something helpful? Try this... get over yourself. Sure, it's great to be self-confident, but don't over-do it and definately don't shove it down the throats of your audience. Remember, you are NOTHING if it were not for them. In fact, how you are seen in their eyes is entirely up to you. If they think you're an arrogant schmuck, then maybe you should stop and take a good long hard look at yourself. Try to tone down your character a bit. Maybe work in a couple of "mistakes" to show how human you are and then show them how you don't mind laughing about them. Try the "Bumbling Magician" angle. Get them on your side, where they are rooting for you to pull off the effect. But keep in mind that the real issue here is that you're turning off the only people in the world who keep you from being just a lonely putz with a deck of cards. You brought this on yourself, and only you can fix it. Hope you find that "helpful". |
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MagicbyCarlo Inner circle has squandered his time making 1062 Posts |
If your "oozing" confidence is taken for arrogance or brashness, then that is probably what you're really "oozing". The way you are perceived is based the way you present yourself. If you are likeable and friendly then people will perceive you as such, if you over do it you can become condescending and fake. Be confident in your skills without bragging, remember that the goal is to have the audience on your side; you want them to be an ally. Court them, make friends with them, and welcome them with warmth. After all the show is for them. Remember that without an audience there is no magic! Recognize how vital these people are to your performance. You could be the greatest technician in the world but if no wants to see you because you’re arrogant, then what good is all the work? Inner confidence is different than outer bravado. You can only do this through practice. Analyze the way you talk to people, your facial expressions, and your tone. Record yourself, videotape yourself, watch your mannerisms and seek a coach to help you if possible. At least you recognize the problem and are seeking a solution. If you work as hard on this as you have on your magic you will succeed!
Good Luck.
Carlo DeBlasio
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Chris Wood New user UK 48 Posts |
Audiences are sensitive animals... they pick up on all sorts of body language.
Firstly it's OK to be confident in your ability, it reassures the audience they are watching a professional. When Kaps did the Homing card and it was all apparently going wrong, his body language, (feet were nailed to the floor, posture full of dignity ect...) belied the fact. The audience, even though they suspended belief due to his excellent acting, always felt they were safe in the hands of a master at some level of consciousness. Oozing indeed. The point is you must truly assess your ability and be confdent within it. Trust it. Then forget it. Confidence - is when you are at ease with your ability. (as magicians we especially need to be TOTALLY at ease) Arrogance - is when you think you are better than you really are. Bravado - is when you know you are not that good but pretend you are anyway. I wonder if you are actually oozing pride of your ability. This happens to us all when you keep learning new tricks and moves. You give yourself a mental pat on the back every time it goes well, you are pleased with yourself and the audience smells it. My advice, as crazy as it sounds, would be to go back to a really old trick, a really easy one that you don't feel proud of at all - a self worker - and try performing it again. Video one of the performances and analyse your ooze factor on it. Or better - get a friend to watch it and tell you. If you are still coming over as arrogant you might be in love with yourself too much - but from the sound of your post and your evident concern on this issue I doubt that. best of luck. |
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