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Steven Evans Regular user Wrexham, North Wales. 191 Posts |
Sounds very good, Shrink!
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Ken Dyne Inner circle UK 2268 Posts |
For me, I consider it vital that I can leave my stage persona when I take off my jacket. I do understand why this is however, this is due to my actor training which has taught me to leave the character with the costume so to speak.
I am unsure what you may think. IMO every character should have a little of you within it. I think it is important for my sanity that I leave stage Kennedy on stage, my partner would go mad if I was lke that in life, as I am sure I would also. Again, eating my own words, this is difficult when you are sittign without the "costume" on and someone asks to see something, and you are faced with the question of "how do I act?" I think this is difficult. The way I over come this is that every time I leave my apartment I do so with the Jacket on, my hair spiked, and in character. It is like the public face which is displayed by celebrities. Kennedy
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magicinsight Inner circle 4293 Posts |
If a performer does chose to act or to perform in character, which is not necessary at all to be effective and entertaining, then the (stage, parlour or close-up) persona should only be an extension, not an exageration, of your own personality. If the stage character or persona is only an extension of your inherent personality, then you can "perform" at any given moment without the need to be wearing a special outfit or necklace.
Kennedy is right that to maintain your sanity and your partner's sanity, you must be able to separate yourself as a performer from yourself as a non-performer. Max Maven is a wonderful personality and character and Phil Goldstein is a wonderful creator and writer if ideas. However, it would be a shame if his personal identity as Phil Goldstein in his daily activities has been losed and totally consumed by his stage persona or identity as Max Maven. While a persona may be interesting to an audience in the short term, in the end it is the performer as an individual who will be remembered by the audience. Best regards, Michael
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Stuart Cumberland Loyal user 289 Posts |
I'm not near my books, but Richard Osterlind touches on this topic I *believe* in his book Making Magic Real. If I'm not mistaken, he talks about a hypothetical plumber who discovers he can read minds. (Correct me, please, if I'm wrong. I'll have to look it up tonight)
Mentalism is incestuous. Everyone tries to be like everyone else for the most part. Rather than be Darren Brown, David Blaine, Max Maven, or whatever... why not just be you? If you are dark... do dark stuff. If you are funny, do funny stuff. If you are weird, do weird stuff. If you are psycho... well, you get the idea. Don't forget ceremony either. My brother is Navy. When uniformed, he must salute others even walking down the street. Several of my inlaws are staunch Catholics. One can't pass a cross without making the sign of a cross. In Karate, when entering and exiting a Dojo, you must bow. All ceremony. Normal people who go into and out of ceremony under certain conditions. So.. Dave, when you are in the bar, you can use ceremony to create a mood. Do something with Tarot cards. Have them wrapped in silk, light a candle... etc. You get the idea. You can STILL be yourself, yet conduct a weird ceremonial effect. This is a cool thread. Much better than talking tricks... Stuart Cumberland "How To Give Fun And Amazing Psychic Readings DVD": www.Mental-List.com/newdvd.htm |
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magicinsight Inner circle 4293 Posts |
Master Mystifier,
That is an excellent point that you made regarding ceremony. Ceremony and rituals create atmosphere and a desired state of mind. The use of ceremony and rituals are extremely important, as you mentioned, when doing a particular effect, especially in the realm of bizzare magic. Even in non-bizzare, mentalism/psychic effects, ceremony and rituals can enhance the power of the effect by creating a certain atmosphere and in creating a certain mood and state of mind in the spectator. Doc Hilford does this often to achieve or enhance the effects. Excellent point. Best regards, Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
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Joshua Quinn Inner circle with an outer triangle 2054 Posts |
Apologies for the derailment, but...
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On 2004-08-12 06:51, shrink wrote: Shrink, you're killing us with these teasers! (Kudos to your marketing director.) When will this be released?
Every problem contains the seeds of its own solution. Unfortunately every problem also contains the seeds of an infinite number of non-solutions, so that first part really isn't super helpful.
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mdspark Special user 784 Posts |
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On 2004-08-12 06:04, shrink wrote: I have to agree with Shrink on this...character aside..It is wise, if not essential...to appear confident without arrogance, and most importantly learn to speak WELL as a starting point then continue growing and develope your verbal abilities along the lines that Shrink suggests. IMO, one must project/communicate the idea that what we are doing is special AND risky.. without going over the top. |
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bobser Inner circle 4178 Posts |
There's a lot of people in here with a lot of problems. Don't ya' think?
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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shrink Inner circle 2609 Posts |
This is a lesson in mind control I use the same stuff on my audiences so that they may have more intense experiences this why I don't focus on character but on Mass manipulation. I am even teaching this stuff now to companies and individuals. Quote:
On 2004-08-12 15:46, Quinn wrote: |
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Glenn New user Seaford, Sussex, UK 80 Posts |
I don't know if I have a performance style.
I am me. I find that I am excited when I experience/ see/ learn a new mentalism idea or performance. I am in awe of the idea. When I perform I am the one using the idea, I know how it is done and yet I still feel amazed each and every time that I perform it. It's almost as if it is being done for me each time. It's as if it is as much of a mystery to me. I believe in the effect as and all of the emotions it gives me. Because of this I feel that I project the enthusiasm, awe and wonder to the participants and so each time feels fresh to me and to them. I may be rambling and I hope that it makes sense!!! It made sense in my mind! Glenn |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On 2004-08-12 08:48, Master Mystifier wrote: Cool... I've been told I cover all those categories. Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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shrink Inner circle 2609 Posts |
That mean your show is different every night?
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On 2004-08-12 18:23, shrink wrote: Well, even though I think you're joking Shrink, I do feel I cover those catergories every time I do a performance. It happened last night: I tend to have funny presentations and I did stand up comedy so I get lots of laughs in my sets. I was getting those laughs, but because of the stuff I do I still got stuff like "He's in league with the devil" and one lady, and she meant it said, "You're scaring me." I believe you can cover all those adjectives and still come off as being true to yourself. I'm a person that loves comedies and horrors and I've loved when they've combined them in things like An American Werewolf In London. I do think if you try to "put" this on then I'm sure people sense that it's an act. I see some guys trying to be weird when they really are not or trying for the strange laugh when it's not their type of humor. Be true to yourself and your personality and presentations will work in front of most audiences. Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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