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amccrawford New user 67 Posts |
It took me two days using the brute force method - five cards at a time and an old pack with the numbers written on the back of the pack.
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
While I was on A week vacation I had the stack down but would miss certain cards so after the next week I got it by working on the cards that gave me the most trouble. Now it's ingrained, just part of my vocabulary. If I see A card or hear A cards name I think of the Aronson number. Don't worry about how long it will take just start working with it and soon after stacking and re-stacking to set you'r self up you will know every card and the cards before and after it. The cards number and number to card name will become automatic.
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the dealer Regular user las vegas 188 Posts |
20-30 min
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The Futurist Veteran user 331 Posts |
An afternoon to "learn" it in the most basic sense of the word. But getting the recall "up to speed" is a different matter. At the end of the afternoon I could do number -> "um...ahhh...that's the, er..." -> card for all 52!
A couple of weeks later I felt confident enough to try out a few memdeck effects, had a couple of sketchy moments but got away with it and yeah, StackView is marvellous. Even if only for the simulation, so as you don't have to painstakingly put a stack back together by hand after every shuffle, though there's lots more to it than that. |
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
I didn't have much problem learning the stack, what I had difficulty with was the transition from using the mnemonic to just straight recall of number=card without having to take a second to think.
The funny thing is that what did it for me was when I started practicing the stack by playing a simplified version of solitare, using stack numbers instead of the card value. For some reason playing this game several times made the numbers click for me in a way that all the other practice methods I had tried didn't, and before long it was second nature. I'm also glad I went the mnemonic route, because in the middle of a trick if I happen to have a momentary mental blank I can just recall the mnemonic and work through the associations even if I'm half asleep. Though with any stack you can't consider it fully learned until you have it COLD. You don't want to look like you're having a mild seizure as you pause to try to recall what card or stack number you're looking for. Just like you should practice card slights until you can do them without thinking, you should practice whatever mem deck you use until you can recall the stack number without missing a beat.
Matthew Olsen
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DudleyMagic New user 51 Posts |
At first the idea of memorizing a deck of cards seemed somewhat impossible for me, but I soon realized it was quite possible, and only involved a few days of serious study.
I read the various methods (songs,associations etc) to simplify the process,but found the best way was to construct a deck of *flash* cards, by writing the appropriate stack number on the back of each card. I would memorize the cards in sets of twelve.The flash card concept is discussed in Simon's books and the Tamariz book. |
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plungerman Loyal user 287 Posts |
Late to the party here. Prompted to go for the A. stack after being badly fooled by one of his effects. I enjoy playing with mneumonics but for this job I just put numbers on the faces of the cards and took them five each day.
The association for me was just the integer and the card. It is very important to learn them each in amongst the others. I'll get stuck on some number and then think of the next or previous one and that will click it in for me. Could somone tell me about the Michael Close effect?? P |
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