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Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
I recently aquired a Bill Tube (more out of sentimental value than anything, it was one of the first tricks I remember).
My question is: Is there any resources regarding this great and classic effect? I am not too impressed with the factory routine that comes with most of them and will probably develop many of my own routines...but I would just like other people's thoughts as well. Let me know and thanks.
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
Magi City (I think) has a booklet of bill tube effects.
Obviously, check Tarbell (one of the newer ones = #7 or #8). I seem to remember one of the books reprinted in the back of one of the old Tannen catalogs had a routine using the bill tube with a silk??? |
Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
C'mon Rob...!?! Don't be a "bill tube routine copy... guy"... be a bill tube routine innovator! A bill tube routine artist!! Take the bill tube to its lofty and proper place in the magical pyramid
Seriously, I've always thought it would be fun to run through a pretty standard tube routine, then repeat it, but on the second time around make the tube vanish, or morph into some other type of container, or turn to dust (as in a time warp/travel effect), or something along those lines. The tube must do something more than serve as the recepticle for the bill, else why is it there? Yours in tube, Mike |
Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
Mike, I thought that would have to be the case....as I AM A GENIUS AND AN INNOVATOR!!!!
I just wanted to get some ideas on what other folks are doing. I have the Viking Lifesavers effect that looks very similar to the Bill Tube...so I am thinking of incorporating that. I think that may have potential. Maybe I will come up with all my own routines and come out with a pdf manuscript named....."Pub Magic Vol. 1." *ducks for cover*
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
RJ,
There is one offbeat use for the bill tube that is often cited as a good example of "lateral thinking", I believe it's attributed to Dr. Jax. The idea is that a silk handerchief is tucked into the tube, the tube locked, and the magician pulls the silk out of the tube. Okay, original, yes, but I don't get it. Chuck Smith gets it, though. He has his version of this in his lecture notes "What If?". The first step in Smith's routine is to glue the gimmick on the bill tube shut. You don't use it. Another idea, and this may be the Jax original, or maybe they both are, is to pull 3 to 4 feet of rope from the tube, then set it on the table, and go into a rope routine. The only thing I've ever seen that looked like a bill tube, but wasn't a bill tube, was a container for keeping one's matches dry on camping trips.
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Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
A Brass Match Protector...Man...what lengths will people go to.
I think my best bet is to develop my own routines I guess....now I think of it...that is ALWAYS the best bet....
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
RE: "The only thing I've ever seen that looked like a bill tube, but wasn't a bill tube, was a container for keeping one's matches dry on camping trips."
There are very old lighters, from the late 1800's / early 1900's that look very much like the match holders and bill tubes. I have one in a printer's drawer on my living room wall. It's Austrian, if that helps at all Pub Magic vol. 1!?! I think Penguin just released that a day or two ago Mike |
PaulGreen Inner circle 1133 Posts |
If you can find it, my routine, "Merlin's Gems" was published in "Magicana" in GENII magazine. Good routine that I used at the Magic Castle in the late 60's to early 70's.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
I understand you are looking for resources.
I can't suggest any books or routines, however, when I opened up to the prop, some questions came to mind. Here are some questions whose answers you might find suggestive for presentations; Have you seen the commercial where the kid looks for his drug stash and finds a note from his parents? Have you ever wanted to mess with the tooth fairy? Just why should people keep their money in the bank? Can you think of a safer place to put a billet?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Chevrie Regular user West Texas 120 Posts |
Johnny Brown removed the brass pin and lock. He replaced it with a long "ball type" chain. The kind you usually see on a key chain. Just have the tube in the "open" position, replace the lid and thread the ball chain through the holes on the lid and tube. Close the chain and wear it around your neck with the bill tube hanging behind you. After you load the tube with "whatever" you remove the chain from around your neck with the tube hanging from it. The only way to open the tube is to remove the chain. And I'll bet you can figure the rest...
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Paul Chosse V.I.P. 1955 - 2010 2389 Posts |
George Kaplan, in "The Fine Art of Magic", has a routine for the bill tube that has the tube in plain sight BEFORE you borrow the bill. Now that's interesting...
The old wooden match idea is from an actual device called a "Match Safe" that dates back to turn-of-the-century... The silk from the tube thing was actually sold by Bartl, of Germany, pre-forties, and was called "Druvos" - I have an original instruction sheet. Jaks was European, and, no doubt, brought the idea with him when he came to the States... Paul Green's idea, from Magicana, was innovative - I wish he hadn't mentioned it... Back to the matchsafe - If you borrow a bill, then take out the matches to test the new bills (they do it with a pen at some stores now, and there are "hidden" water marks and lines in the new bills, so why couldn't there be a "heat" test too?),but "accidently" get too close with the flame (flash bill?), well... I might do it over an ashtray, with some ashes already there - pretend the ashes are from the burnt bill, sweep them into a pile and start to put them in the tube, "returning the "bad" bill to the spectator and telling him to take it up with the Treasury. When you re-open the tube there is no room for the ashes because - guess what's filling the tube... You should check the Ganson series - Close-up Magic Volumes 1 and 2 - there were several bill tube routines there, as I recall... A little play on words changes a bill tube into a receptacle for invoices - you "bill" someone for a trick gone wrong - or you get "billed"... Hope something here was helpful. Best, PSC
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