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hemisphere New user Chicago, IL 39 Posts 
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I'm looking for routines or effects in mentalism/magic literature for this type of effect: The mentalist has (for instance) 6 large envelopes (stage size...perhaps 8 1/2 X 11). Six audience members, standing in a row on stage, each have a free choice (?) of any of the six envelopes. Upon opening them, they remove a large letter of the alphbet. Once revealed, the letters correctly spell a word in order. The details could vary...the main effect I'm looking for is the random assemblage of large letters by audience members to spell a word.
Is there a standard name for this type of effect? Are there any sources you recommend for this effect? |
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Jordan Waller Special user London 610 Posts
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Erm if you have a look in 13 Steps there is an effect called Corinders Incredible Slate Test the apparatus is eas enough to make though apparently they can still be bought though under a different name. The effect itself is a little varied from what you mentioned though it is pretty direct and does worked. I recently performed a similiar version for some close friends who, having seen shed loads of stuff from me are rarely impressed but this slayed them.
The effect is worth looking into and could be adapted to suit your needs. I am also before all the other guys automaticaly suggest it mention equivoque. Personaly though I would stay away from it for this particular effect.
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hemisphere New user Chicago, IL 39 Posts
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Thanks Jordan. You nailed the two methods I've considered seriously. The Incredible Slate test (plus some of the subtleties from Maven's Khan Artist) would certainly work without any risk. Equivoque will also work, though may be somewhat unwieldly with large numbers where the placement of every item is important. Finally, I'm sure there are principles that could be taken from card magic to accomplish the effect.
In a perfect world I'd like to be able to have spectators on stage apparently leading the arrangement, then revealing each letter themselves. I think the impact on their faces would double the effect. Any other thoughts anyone? |
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mystic1 Veteran user 342 Posts
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With some modifications, you might want to EAT AT JOE'S.
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hemisphere New user Chicago, IL 39 Posts
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Thanks. I'm not familiar with EAT AT JOE'S - where can it be found?
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squando Elite user 444 Posts
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BRUCE BERSTEIN SELLS THIS IN A MANUSCRIPT CALLED ...THREE.
Frank
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jstone Inner circle Someday I'll have 1473 Posts
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Maven's got a great version of this idea called "French Active" in his violet book... I will likely be adding this to my show.
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BT New user Winnipeg, Canada 64 Posts
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Can someone briefly go through the effect: Eat at Joe's? I can't find the description of this anywhere?
Tks, BRIAN
Brian T.
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Mike Ince Inner circle 2041 Posts
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On 2013-04-29 01:02, BT wrote: The effect is exactly what the OP was looking for in 2005 when this thread began. The effect is now included in Bruce Bernstein's new hardback, Unreal. Go ahead and buy it... it was voted mentalism book of the year in 2012 by a landslide. This is the kind of conversation that should be in Inner Thoughts. If you still haven't heard a description through PM or in Inner Thoughts by tomorrow night I'll discuss it with you via PM but not here... "Penny" is for safe topics that won't veer close to exposure. You weren't asking for exposure but I have a nasty feeling it could happen soon. The subject matter is too precious to risk that. Gotta go - it's late here.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18033 Posts
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This thread needs to be in the private area !!!!!
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Mind Guerrilla Inner circle Queens, NY 2670 Posts
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On 2013-04-29 01:19, Mike Ince wrote: Available on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Bruce-Bernstein-Un......092VTK2C Check out the divergent reviews |
ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2501 Posts
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You will also find this plot (identical to Bruce's "Eat at Joe's, with his permission), with a completely different methodology, in Stimulacra (where it's titled "The Real Thing").
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BT New user Winnipeg, Canada 64 Posts
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Mike, definitely not trying to get the exposure here - Am legitimately wondering what the audience sees for this effect. Not sure what's so secretive about this? Slim if we're not exposing the method, why the need to be in a private area? I had heard about this effect before Bruce's book was released, but was curious why there was no description of the effect (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE METHOD) anywhere online!!! That's all I'm asking for here - Not the caramilk secret!
Brian T.
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Mike Ince Inner circle 2041 Posts
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PM'd.
The reason I don't like posting a play-by-play description here is sometimes what an audience sees is different than what they later remember. I also don't want to give clues that might allow reconstruction of the method. I like both Bruce and Doug's methodology and I think it's beneficial to be familiar with both. Knowing each of them got me out of a sticky situation with a heckler a few years ago. -Mike
The secret of deception is in making the truth seem ridiculous.
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Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1566 Posts
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On 2006-06-09 10:54, jstone wrote: Thanks to the suggestion, looked this up and think it's really fun. For those familiar with Phill Smith's "Quinta", you can turn this into a simple, direct, hands off routine! |
Patrick Redford Inner circle Michigan 1751 Posts
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And where may Quinta be found for those interested in this lovely plot.
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2501 Posts
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"Quinta" is in the book Yokai. But neither it nor Max's previously mentioned "French Active" (both of which are forces) have anything to do with the "Eat at Joe's"/"The Real Thing" plot.
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gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2136 Posts
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On 2013-04-29 17:09, ddyment wrote: Listen to Doug. |
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Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1566 Posts
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Yeah, Doug is right -- The Quinta Force is in Phill Smith's Yokai, and a modified (simplified) version is in Mokele. And yes, not to confuse things, but the idea of mixing the Quinta Force with Maven's "French Active" has nothing to do with Eat at Joe's/The Real Thing. A completely different plot. But as I mentioned, reading jstone's suggestion of French Active got me thinking. Just didn't think it was worth a separate thread.
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