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MurphysNEW Elite user 457 Posts |
"Pressure Force is a great lesson in spectator management. Even if you are not into card tricks - the psychology behind Pressure Force is a must-to-learn for every performer! BRILLIANT! BRILLIANT! BRILLIANT!"
- Menny Lindenfeld Dani DaOrtiz needs no introduction. His performances are that of a true master and his techniques devastating! Pressure is a force from Dani that is so beautifully explained in this download you will be doing it in no time! By mastering this technique you are not only learning great spontaneous magic but a technique that is PROFOUNDLY powerful and one you will use forever!” - Matt Johnson "Watching guru DaOrtiz in action is a lesson every time. Each time I watch him... I learn" - Kuffini / Patrik Kuffs Imagine, four cards are randomly selected by your spectators. Another spectator deals down to a random amount of cards, stopping only when they want. Impossibly, the random selections are revealed to be a four of a kind. And if that's not enough, the value exactly matches the number of cards dealt onto the table. In Pressure Force, Dani reveals the secrets to this REVOLUTIONARY NEW TOOL. This is a brilliant concept that you can adapt to a limitless number of other routines. You can force single, multiple or ANY number of cards with this technique. Also included is Dani's handling of the Hofzinser plot. Check it out here: https://www.murphysmagic.com/Product.aspx?id=67720 |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
Is this different than the explanation in one of his Penguin Lectures?
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RNK Inner circle 7492 Posts |
I think a lot of working professionals are releasing a little more items now due to Covid and not being able to perform for a live audience which is fine IMO. Everyone needs to be able to make a living and pay the bills
Check out Bafflingbob.com
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gotgot New user 79 Posts |
This looks very much like what he showed on his penguin lecture indeed
great force though |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
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On Aug 13, 2020, Marketing_Genius wrote: I was thinking the same thing, but I have found I simply cannot resist getting everything he puts out because the thinking is always so *** clever. So, all of this makes me happy. Though I am wondering how similar this is to his Penguin Lecture, because his forcing in that was bolder than I think I am able to pull off. But I'll probably buy it anyway, and Dani will probably convince me that it's not actually too bold for me to pull off. Many of Dani's recent releases have been so strong that they've convinced me that I can actually pull off Dani Daortiz style miracles. Quote:
Buy it, or not, it's your life. |
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
Certainly not new, but every example of Dani doing this sort of force is valuable to the student. Examples of recovering when it initially goes wrong are hugely useful. And every time he talks about it, he speaks a little differently about it.
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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
Absolute garbage! Nothing new just a timing force how can he charge for this ? If you’re considering buying this I would suggest you make a contribution to Morgan Strebbler instead.
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
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On Aug 16, 2020, cardbiker wrote: I do not own this, but to call it 'garbage' is hyperbolic. Dani is a giant in our craft and his insights and nuances on this are valuable. Just watching him execute it has value. Obviously, you feel there is nothing for you to gain by it, and that's fine. But many will benefit from Dani's teaching and experience, myself included (and I have been performing professionally for a very long time).
It's all in the reflexes.
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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
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On Aug 16, 2020, Illucifer wrote: I think that because he’s considered a “Giant “ is the only reason he can get away with selling something like this. |
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
So for $15 there's zero value in this then?
We all know it's the timing force, but I was hoping to get some more nuances and thoughts on it. So there's none of that? |
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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
It’s a Revolutionary NEW force , a timing force with urgency in his voice.
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
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On Aug 17, 2020, cardbiker wrote: Er, the guy in the trailer claiming this is "BRAND NEW" is not Dani DaOrtiz. Dani has lost weight recently, but you should still be able to tell him apart from the Murphy's guy in the trailer. Blame Murphy's for those claims, not Dani. (And Murphy's should be blamed for packaging this as a new idea, since it's a false claim.) You declared this "absolute garbage." Are you saying the content is garbage, or just that it's not new ideas? With a declaration that strong, you should be very clear. |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1752 Posts |
Personally, I think there is huge value in this.
But it is easy to see why someone who is newer fo magic or not a professional would scoff at this. If you want Dani’s real work on the timing force, get this! It’s not just psychology and hoping it works. It’s a genuine technique to make them stop where you want them to. This can be invaluable for hundreds of effects out there. I’ve already thought of a few ways I could use this in other effects I’m already performing. Dani is one of those guys where if he says something, you should listen. His style isn’t for everyone, but this is something easily adaptable to just about anyone. Now personally, I think this probably should have been included in part of a bigger project instead of by itself, but to say there’s no value in this is crazy. Only someone who doesn’t care about the intricacies of a technique would say there’s no value here. Madison |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
The problem is twofold - it's been marketed as "new" and "revolutionary" when it's neither of those things.
The second is most magi on here want NEW STUFF and aren't that interested in learning how to refine what the already do or even learn how to do something they thought they'd never do. Dani is one of my absolute heroes in magic and most seem to miss the point about "you have to be Dani to do his stuff". No, he's the epitome of what Vernon talked about - naturalness. Learn from that and work on how to make what you do natural to you. We have so many bad teachers in magic that so many magicians follow suit and don't actually think how to integrate stuff into their personality. |
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MonsterMagic Special user 517 Posts |
The core premise of the force isn't new but how he does it and the routines he does utilising it are pretty exciting.
He himself has taught it before, so I don't get the ad copy. I'd recommend his DVD set which contains it because you can learn a lot from him in general. I'm using it over Zoom successfully. |
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no2ss Inner circle California 1027 Posts |
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On Aug 18, 2020, David Numen wrote: Yes, pretty much everything here. Even though I've said in the past that some of his effects do require you to be Dani, I still learn a lot from those and take those into other effects. And, honestly, most of what he teaches is so clever and so different that it's worth learning. As I noted above, I'll probably pick this up even though I've seen him explain this elsewhere, just because I'm sure the subtleties are worth it. |
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Sophocles Loyal user 251 Posts |
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On Aug 18, 2020, Harry Patter wrote: Are you referring to the Utopia set? Is that where this is on? Thanks! |
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
One aspect that strikes me as fresh here is Dani's discussion of how he sometimes employs physical contact to aid the force. I've noted him sometimes doing this in performance, but I don't recall him previously discussing it explicitly, and he does that here. This is an example of how every scrap of Dani material is valuable to the serious student -- there are so many, many details to his work.
However, Dani teaches this timing force more effectively and in more depth -- as this video is only 16(?!) minutes long -- in his Penguin Lecture #3 and Utopia DVD #3. One major shortcoming of this too-brief video is that it almost completely ignores error correction. This important topic receives attention in the aforementioned sources, as well as briefly in Penguin Lectures 1 & 2, and an especially good 8 minutes on DVD #2 from his Chaos set (the French one in Dominique Duvivier's basement). Any standalone release on this topic is woefully incomplete without addressing how to fix things when the participant stops (or stops you) earlier or later than desired. Murphy's did a great job with Dani's 3-video "Weapons" collection earlier this year, showing that Dani can benefit from working with a team that aims to produce a more focused, structured (yet limited in scope) project than many of his own self-directed projects turn out to be. But alas, this 16-minute scrap of video does not come close to doing justice to this important technique, it has a huge omission that will thwart new students, and Murphy's is extra wrong to promote it as "new" material when it is very familiar to any student of Dani's work. In short: I'm glad for the detail on touch, but overall this release was not well considered by Murphy's, and they are marketing it misleadingly. |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
Thank you Tim for an actual proper review of this product. I haven't seen it and judging by what you've said I probably won't fork out for it and will refer back to the other items.
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daortiz New user españa 22 Posts |
Hi everyone!
First of all, I would like to thank everyone for their words, both good and bad, because not everyone can like everything. As I see that there is confusion about the content of this work, I will detail it below. The fact that many of the techniques that I use are similar to each other, is because, trying to reach the naturalness, they all seem what they appear to be: If a card is going to be chosen, then open the deck so that they choose one, or lay cards on the table until they stop you. That is the external life of forcing and what makes it natural is that the viewer understands what is happening (no strange passes or unnatural actions). Now, the internal part, which encourages the viewer to stop or touch one card instead of another, changes completely, and within a force that seems to be the same no matter how many times we see it, we find hundreds of methods. In Penguin, as well as in some of my lectures, I have talked about reaction times, the rule of the three strokes, the classic force... but I think I never talked about those “subliminal gestures” that accelerate the viewer's reaction because they put it under Pressure: "Let him see that he has to exercise an action, in an ambiguous way so that he does not make any decision ... and only at the moment a subliminal message is launched (we touch him, we demand his action, we change the action timing, etc), that he realizes that he must take an action and force him to do it under that pressure ”. As I said, if the forcing is only seen without knowing its context or real realization, you can associate it with other things that it has been able to explain before. That is why I ask, please, that all those who criticize this work, do so having seen it before. Then they can say that it a ****. Or well, let each one say and do what they want! I just wanted to clarify the content a bit. Without a doubt, the content is not very old, and on occasion I have been able to comment on “the pressure on the viewer”, but I have never spoken as openly as I do in this work, I just wanted to help a little those who did not understand the content and I do not intend to convince anyone of anything. That said, I take this opportunity to give everyone a big hug! Dani DaOrtiz |
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