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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Both H.H. Holmes and Henri Le Caron owned pharmacies in or near Chicago, Ill. in the USA.
Both were Free Masons. Both were in England during the Ripper killings. My theory is that they joined forces in the task. It would explain the disparity in witness descriptions of Jack. This is an anagram clue, which seems to support; My Tag-Team Ripper theory: H OLMES AND CARON KILLED AS A TEAM= LA MASCHERA DEL DEMONIO 'K' .= THE MASK OF THE DEMON, 'K' K , signifies the Free Mason Knights. MASK OF THE DEMON, may refer to BLOODY SUNDAY ; London,1887. Henri Le Caron was involved in the conflict, via his links to both the Fenians and Clan Na Gael. Holmes was a brawler ,and would have been there , just for the hell of it. |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
THE MASONIC NUMERAL V- DOUBLED IS THE VV X OR TEN ;
This creates an anagram which says: THOMAS MILLER BEACH DEVON 'V' NOUVEAU DENTIST RX. Does this refer to Devon in Chicago , or Devon in England? Henri LeCaron ran a pharmacy at 378 Blue Island Avenue, Cook County , Chicago. H.H. Holmes took over Houlton's pharmacy at 63rd and Wallace, Cook County as well. Did the two men know each other? Had Le Caron seen promise in the serial killer Holmes and enlist his services in White Chapel as a cover or smoke screen for his own involvement? Kotah |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Devon Reference Addendum;
Devon Avenue /dɪˈvɒn/ is a major east-west street in the Chicago metropolitan area. It begins at Chicago's Sheridan Road, which borders Lake Michigan, and it runs west until merging with Higgins Road near O'Hare International Airport. Devon continues on the opposite side of the airport and runs intermittently through Chicago's northwestern suburbs. In the northwest suburbs west of O'Hare Airport, Devon Avenue is the boundary between Cook and DuPage counties. The street is located at 6400 N in Chicago's address system. Devon Avenue was originally known as Church Road,[1] but it was renamed in the 1880s by Edgewater developer John Lewis Cochran. Note the time appropriate dates, and the mention of Cook County once again. Kotah . |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
This is the oldest Devon pharmacy in the UK ;
Is it the pharmacy revealed in the anagram? It was a functioning Pharmacy RX, during the Ripper timeline. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article......riptions |
61magic Special user Sacramento California 775 Posts |
Interesting topic, may I ask if you are theorizing for a bizarre routine or are you a ripper fan?
I have some ripper theories and some Mudget theories as well could be interesting to compare notes.
Professor J. P. Fawkes
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
61magic, Strong interest in the Ripper case. An X-file syndrom, I feel the truth is still out there.
PM, me and let's test the water to see where comparing notes might lead. Kotah |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
The Lady Elgin- Aurora, Great Lakes incident; really gets the wheels Turning. Mention of the Wisconsin Irish Union Guard during the Civil War, immediately brought Le Caron to mind. The Fenian ties, the Canadian fiasco all fit Without the ships passenger list we can never know if Caron had been on board
I can tell you this connecting link. to Holmes. H.H. Holmes attended the University of Michigan as a medical student He left after accusations of stealing corpses for experiments, and also using them for insurance fraud.. A crime he later repeated as a cover for a murder. Henri Le Caron lived in Michigan for 25 years. Both Henry Holmes and Henri Le CARON, Ended up operating Pharmacies in Chicago around the same time. two competing business, they had to have known one another, had the same suppliers. Kotah |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
A KILLERS MODE OF TRAVEL;
On a later Sailing date of May 18th, 1899; 11 years after the Ripper kills. It appears the person listed as passenger # 24, had remained in Liverpool area for a whilelonger PASSENGER # 24 , was named H. H. Holmes ! To my surprise passenger # 10 is named Mrs. Dayton RMS New England Passenger List - 18 May 1899 |GG Archives |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Every time I post, it becomes like a death knell for the thread.
So, here is another post, one mor nail in the coffin. Just read an article which says, DNA matches to both a victim and a Ripper suspect have been made. Skin cells found on a shawl; Name Aaron Kosminski as being Jack the Ripper. A shawl, which would now be almost 143 years old. What would be the provable chain of custody on something like that. In the poverty of White Chapel, yarns and fabric were costly and hard to come by. Rag pickers plied their trade. Items, often purloined; liberated from their owners A shawl to keep off the cold of the fog and night could have passed through many hands over the years. N o mention in the article as to how many unidentified samples were found. They didn't identify the name of the victim who's DNA matched. To me, that seemed odd. Every one and their brother slams me for using anagrams to discover clues and leads. I intend to stay the course. A Ripper tag team of Holmes and Lev Crone Make sense to me. If the DNA had come from saliva om a stamp or envelope sent to Lusk; then I would have become a believer. Kotah |
weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
Welcome to my world. My posts usually terminate a thread often.
Don't worry about it, stay the course and keep learning.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Enjoy your selves my brothers. You are about to see Kotah eating crow.
Passenger 24 mentioned earlier could not have been the murder H H Holmes because the ship sailed in 1899, and Holmes the killer was hung in 1896. Passenger 24 also could not have been Henri Le Cron because he died in1894. Passenger 24 must have have been a man actually named H.H. Holmes And my name is mud. My dates vwere skewed, but I still believe they killed in a dark partnership Sorry Willie; I am too embarrassed to post anything, especially Rippwr related again K. |
weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts |
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On Dec 7, 2021, KOTAH wrote: You are too hard on yourself. This is all an experiment and is like solving a puzzle. Some people can solve puzzles, some can't, and some don't even try. Just keep trying because anything else is failure but taking a chance and being wrong is just a step in the puzzle solving methos. Wish I could have been right on every puzzle I had ever tried to solve. As for anagrams, I don't even try them. Way beyond my thought process. Don't give up.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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Rhewin Loyal user 250 Posts |
There are theories that Holmes himself was not hanged in 1896. Other sources also cite a passenger going by the name H Holmes before his hanging. However, I do still find that suspect as he often used pseudonyms.
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61magic Special user Sacramento California 775 Posts |
There was a show on one of the cable channels by a descendant of Holmes. I don't recall if it was his grandson or Great grandson.
The gentleman's premise was the H.H. Homes and Jack the Ripper were one in the same. He presented his theory which relied on the belief that Homes was not hanged and the corps in the grave was not his. This was the central point supporting his point that the Ripper killings had continued in the US for a long time after. To make the story short the show had Holmes' exhumed and the DNA was a perfect match to the surviving relative. This actually cut the show short since it undermined the entire premise of the show. Something you may want to search for and watch.
Professor J. P. Fawkes
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KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
ELIZABETH STRIDE VICTIM NUMBER THREE=
THE DETECTIVE IS IN THE ZURMIM BREV BAR : Brev is a Swedish word meaning ,letters. Zurmim. is Yiddish for letters/ notes. The body of Elizabeth Stride was found in an alley way connected to the Brener Street Club. Behind the club was a print shop ; It was in this shop that the Yiddish newspaper, Der Arbeter. A newspaper is a collection of letters and personal notes supplied to the public at large. The Brener Street Club/ pub was alsoa secret letter drop. Ex Detective, George John Little child; became the Special Branch's Chief Inspector. He was deployed with the post office to the Brener Street Club Pub. Since a pub is a bar, it would seem Littlechild was the detective in the anagram. Elizabeth Stride's body lay below a wagon wheel on the alley wall. The wagon wheel being a Hanoverian symbol. These are the clues, make of them what you may Elizabeth Stride was the Rippers only Swedish Victim. Israel Schwartz witnessed the initial attack on Stride. He claimed she shouted the name 'Lipski '. The previous year, just one block east of Berner Street, a Polish Jew named Israel Lipski murdered Miriam Angel, a fellow lodger, at 16 Batty Street. 4 Angel, who was also Jewish, was killed on 28 June 1887. Nitric acid had been poured down her throat. Was Stride indicating her attacker was Jewish? Or was she simply saying he was a murderer? https://www.jack-the-ripper.org/elizabeth-stride.ht |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
The following anagram involves the man who was the porter,
at the Berner Street Club. He was also the first man to discover the body of Liz Stride; LOUIS DIEMSHUTZ FOUND STRIDE'S BODY= BLOODHOUND MYSTERIES FUSTIS UDD Fustis , means a club Udd, is a Swedish word meaning; sharp point of a knife. It is interesting that a Swedish word should appear in an anagram concerning a Swedish victim who died as the result of being stabbed near a club. Kotah |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
HIS NAME WAS MR. HENRY, HERMAN WEBSTER MUDGETT =
WE SAW HIM , SAME AM MURDERER GET BY ST. THREN H ; Get By, means to proceed unnoticed/ unpunished. AM is an abbreviation of American. St. Thren H , was the Whitechapel Tube Station, Hammersmith lines between Whitechapel and Algate. It opened in 1884 Near%C2%A0Whitechapel |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
LIZ STRIDE, GUSTEFSDOTTER WAS SWEDISH=
I .F. TRUSTEES DISLODGED THE SWZ WAITRESS I.F. stands for Irish Fenian. The Irish Fenian Trustees were the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee. It was comprised of 16 business tradesmen Dislodged, can mean to forcibly remove. SWZ stands for Swedish/ Swede. Liz and her husband operated a small coffee shop in Whitechapel for a while, before they separated. It is very likely she waitressed there as well. The Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, was later joined by The Working mans Vigilance Committee Were the members of this group Hanoverian? All were volunteer civilian citizens patrolling the streets of Whitechapel at night. A nice group for a Killer to conceal or lose himself within. Someone joined the patrols with bad intentions. Day and night people were watching and moving. Most certainly someone had his eye on Long Liz Stride. |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
T WAS THE FIRST NIGHT OF THE DOUBLE EVENT=
THE SUFFERING TIES THAT BIND THOLE OVE ; Thole ,means to endure without complaint Ove, is a Swedish word , meaning edge or fear Again we find a Swedish word in a Ripper anagram. Thefirst night of the double event was the same night, Elizabeth Stride, a Swedish woman was killed. Kotah |
KOTAH Inner circle 2289 Posts |
I recently learned that Liz Stride had used an alias,
she went by the name, Annie Fitzgerald, The phrase; SHE USED THE ALIAS ANNIE FITZGERALD= DAGER ZA EIN UNFIT HES ASSAILED; ZA , means for in Swedish. EIN, is German for one. The message says, DAGER FOR ONE UNFIT HE'S ASSAILED Lis Stride, the Swede, was assailed, stabbed and killed. |
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