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Christopher Williams
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Thanks billy
www.magicman13.co.uk

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MikeDes
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I'm not sure if you actually got an answer so here goes a few suggestions:

Comedy Funnel
Spot
Linking rings
Disappearing Glove
Disappearing Bandana (Banana)
Make some candy appear (Chick Pan)
Silk routines were the silk changes to a mouth coil
Cut and restored rope
Balloon animals (a must)
PB&J

Build some funny routines around this and that should get you started.

Mike
Christopher Williams
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Thanks mike, I have got a glove effect for kids which goes great with an ugly bag joke, I have a cut and restored rope, and have learnt the ninja rings. finally I have an answer to my question
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BIlly James
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Quote:
On 2005-01-21 13:18, Cheshire Cat wrote:
I started in kids shows at age 28 (WITH a female assistant who was later to become my wife
Tony.


That's a trick I'd like to learn!

;)
wol
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Chuds, join equity, public liability sorted. NEVER tell the client that you are new to kids, that will only panic the hell out of them ,free or not. So be sure of the material before you step out. Use tried and tested kids tricks and just put your spin on them, after a while you will find your character for the kids that works best and then your away. I can understand why these guys are trying to haul you back in but the only way to learn is to fall on you face a couple of times and you learn pretty fast. Have you ever considered a summer season? By the way the guys here are talking to you I assume you're not extremely old. So try to get a season in with one of he larger holiday companies. Look in the stage they are advertising now. It will get you used to being on stage, using sound/lighting equipment and open you up to a variety of ages. There is no better experience. I assume you know malc at jack Cohens, pop and see him, he hates kids but knows his stuff about entertainig them! Ask him for some advice on what tricks to get, he wil porbably tell you how to make them for half the price, I know he did for me saved me spending all my money in his shop! If you have confidence in what you're doing then do it. by the way good thing about the OFSTED! Look into child protection and disclosure. not essential but they help us get bookings over other entertainers without them.
hope this helps
if not then I apologise
Wol
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Christopher Williams
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Thanks wol, some encouragement! yes I am very close with malcolm and am at his shop nearly everyday talking to him and showing him things. I know he doesn't like kids that much, he has told me a few funny stories of what he used to want tot do to them at summer seasons. to confirm I am 18 years old, and have had offers by holiday camps by agencies who have seen me perfom close up and wanted to know if I could do kids or adults shows, but I couldn't because I'm a close up magician. however, it makes you think when so many people ask if I can do kids, 'should I actually try'. and I want to, regardless of what anyone says. I am not looking at being anyones competition, unless they do close up magic. I'm sure anyone in plymouth would rather have emazdad or billy, but if I know how to do a kids party, atleast if I get asked I might be able to say yes
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p.b.jones
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Chuds, join equity, public liability sorted.
HI,
Problem is he needs contracts as proof he is a working performer before he can join.


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however, it makes you think when so many people ask if I can do kids, 'should I actually try'. and I want to, regardless of what anyone says.


HI,
none of the posts here have said do not give it a try, all they have said is do not rush into it. if you go into it with a nice act you will probably bomb or feel that you did not do well the first few times you perform for kids, However if your act is reasonably sound you will adapt and learn to deal with the children. If you rush in with a poor thrown together act you will likely bomb so badly that you will do a few kids shows then pack it in. I do close up magic too it is a completely different ball game and so are the reactions you get from your audience this difference in reaction will take a bit of getting used to. You need to be many more times entertaing when working kidshows or adult cabaret/standup than you do when performing close up. close up people are pretty much wowed by a snappy effect. not so much so on stage or for kids.
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Christopher Williams
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True, but being round kids all the time with my parents being childminders, I am usually asked to keep them entertained and occupied which I don't have too much probelms with. I understand that it is a totally different ball game with kids and I accept that fact
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<<<Also think ahead to things like your car insurance. If you are driving now it's costing you an arm and a leg isn't it? You cannot imagine what your insurance company would charge you as an entertainer. >>>

And is it true if you are dressed up driving to your show, you aren't insured if you have a crash?

Matt
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And is it true if you are dressed up driving to your show, you aren't insured if you have a crash?

Hi,
You are not supposed to drive around in clown makeup you could tecnicaly be arresseted as it is classed as a distraction to other drivers.
I do not know how you stand insurace wise
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wol
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Problem is he needs contracts as proof he is a working performer before he can join.

Was true at one point, that you had to be an actor to get equity and you had to have equity to be an actor, not true, I joined equity four years ago and all I had to do was put down that I was an entertainer! Oh yeah and pay them £80.
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Emazdad
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If you are goimg to use your car to travel to and from shows you have to declare it to the insurance company, as you are useing it for business use. If you tell them you are an entertainer some companies hike up the fee a lot, they put humble old you in the same category as rock bands. Some wont insure you if you say you are an entertainer, I've only come across one like that myself and can't remember their name.
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Clive "Emazdad" Hemsley
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p.b.jones
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Was true at one point, that you had to be an actor to get equity and you had to have equity to be an actor, not true, I joined equity four years ago and all I had to do was put down that I was an entertainer! Oh yeah and pay them £80.


Hi,
I joined just a few months ago and I had to supply several contacts as proof of engagemnts for that year
Phillip
wol
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When insuring my van I called the comapny first and explained that as a childrens entertainer I am parking my van in daylight hours outside little vilage halls or private houses, they took this into consideration before quoting me and the premium was a lot less than before I mentioned the type of entertainment I do. I use Tesco.
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